Doyut For a good comparison of the relatvie snow/dry/ice merrits of noikian tires, check out http://www.nokiantyres.com/indexen.html and choose the "nokian comparison" link under "test information" Its a chart showing a "frictions circle" for the diff. nokian tires under diff conditions. Dave 90 200 qw w/ pirrelli snows 98 m3/4 with NRQ snows