Audi Ur-Q vs. Mustang 308

[Buchholz, Steven]

AFAIK this was a posting to audifans ... not audiworld.  AFAIK David's car
is a fairly stock '85 urquattro.  Believe what you will, but I know I've had
a very similar experience with my stock '83 urquattro.  I can't explain why
it is the case ... I drove a 5 liter 5-speed back in '86 before I found the
urq that I bought ... they certainly feel quick.  OTOH I can also recount a
tale where I was embarassed by a VW ur-beetle (I didn't know we were racing
at first, but I was still unable to overtake him).  Now, with the new turbo
and Schrappnell Knobben adding a couple PSI I doubt I'd have a problem ...
;-)

... to respond to the comment about toasting clutches ... I can't speak to
David's case, but in mine it was a stock launch ... and if nothing else, the
turbo lag actually helps ... the Mustang had me a little off the line (here
again, I didn't know we were racing! :)

... to respond to the comment about the quattro being made for off road ...
I think Audi's experience in SCCA Trans Am, IMSA GTO and various touring car
championships speaks to the contrary ... granted that the traction AWD
provides often is more of a hindrance in a quick jump off the line, but once
the engine comes on cam you can probably put more power to the ground ... 

Steve Buchholz
San Jose, CA (USA)
> 
> Because, for the most part, Audiworld is pure fantasy and stacking the
deck.
> Read most of the comments and note that everyone can dust ANY car so long
as
> they can do modifications.
> 
> "I can toast a Ferrari GTO just by replacing both turbos, replacing the
> camshafts, chipping, new exhaust, etc, etc, yadda, yadda."
> 
> They all talk about what they CAN do with the right modifications.
> 
> >
> >
> > I agree w/ Dennis- in drag racing, there is no way that a stock UrQ will
> > beat a worked Mustang 302, if the drivers are of equal skill.
> > I always wonder why a lot of people over at Audiworld drag race their
> > cars. I could buy a Buick GN for less than 1/2 what they're paying for
> > their cars and crush them at the drag strip all day long.  Audis are not
> > made for drag racing and it takes a lot of $$$ to make them do well at
> > the drag strip. OTOH, Mustangs, GNs, Camaros, Firebirds and Vettes are
> > all quite good at the drag strip and much cheaper, w/ the exception of
> > the Vette.
> >
> > This is maybe the 4th or 5th post I've seen about outrunning 5.0
Mustangs with URQ's.
> > At first I just let it go, since my URQ wasn't set up right, I had no
frame
> > of reference.
> > Well, I finally got mine running quite well (I think it's as good as a
stock
> > URQ will run), and have the original Road & Track road test. R&T
reported a
> > 0-60 time for the '83 URQ of 8.2 seconds. That is a little slower than I
> > think they run, but it's close. Most stock 5.0 Mustangs will turn low
7's.
> > Built 302 stangs will get into the 6's quite easily. Make no mistake, I
am
> > _not_ a dorf fan, and I _don't_ dispute your claim in any way, but I
know the
> > decent condition Mustangs around here would seriously blow me off the
line.
> > Thirty and up might be closer, but to 30 it wouldn't even be close.
> > I have a 330HP LT4 that will handle the dorfs, but they run closer the
Vette
> > then to the URQ.
> > Am I missing something here. If my stock URQ will run 0-60 in the high
6s to
> > low 7s, I want to know how to do it!