I don't thing the car that started this thread was an '83 ... read Dave's e-mail address carefully ... though not an '83, his 20-v turbo urq IS stock ... we only got 20vT's here in the USA as sport quattros ... Steve Buchholz San Jose, CA (USA) > To: Dave.Eaton at clear.net.nz > > Doesn't a stock 20vt make an 83 URQ non-stock? >