type 44 window relay/electrical ?'s

[Paul Meyers]

Steve's right about checking the other stuff, but, if the sunroof is also
not working and your car is '87 or newer, then it's likely the double wide
Siemens module that is on the fritz. It's actually very complicated
internally, containing 2 circuit boards and at least 2 relays. The boards
are surface mounted, containing an amazing number of components for a part
made in the middle 80's. I had the same problem just this week, with the
windows abruptly stopping working (either down or up, and usually at the
worst possible time, like entering a car wash with the windows down) and the
sunroof also failing to work. I replaced the module with one from the gray
'87 that is awaiting its loom transplant (ersatz parts car). The problem was
completely solved. 

Paul Meyers
Gray 87 5KCSTQ 1.8bar eurolights fuchs 147 kM gulp! cooked loom
Pearl 88 5KCSTQ 1.8bar eurolights fuchs bilsteins 122 kM 2pc-em k24 turbo
Metallic White 87 5KCSTQW 192 kM, daily driver w/working windows & sunroof
Blue! 86 5KCSTQ parts car



-----Original Message-----
From: Buchholz, Steven [mailto:Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:04 PM
To: 'Richard Miller'
Cc: 'qlist'
Subject: RE: type 44 window relay/electrical ?'s


>Whenever I hear of a report of a window operation
>problem the relays are actually one of the later suspects I investigate.
>First check to see that the switches are operating properly ... if they
>appear to be functional, the next thing to look for is broken wires in the
>loom in the door hinge first at the driver's door and then at the door
which
>is having problems.