5kcstq/200tq clutch/FW pics up

[auditude at neta.com]

I put up some pics of the clutch parts.  They are of the flywheels,
pressure plates, and clutch disks for a 5kcstq and 200tq.

Check out:

http://photos.yahoo.com/quattrophile

and click on the clutches folder

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ken

On 1 Dec 2001, at 18:29, Matt Beaubien wrote:

> I'm interested in the later flywheels.  Any chance you could take a picture
> of it?  I have a (heavy!) early one.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <auditude at neta.com>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:11 AM
> Subject: 5kcstq clutch job, TO bearing
>
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Since some are discussing Type 44 clutch parts going out, I think,
> > it reminded me of something I wanted to mention.
> >
> > As I triumphantly began separating the tranny from the motor on
> > my '88 5kcstq last weekend, I heard all kinds of little pieces of
> > metal falling about.  As I pulled it away, most of the little ball
> > bearings from the throwout bearing fell out onto the floor.
> >
> > The throwout bearing started making noise, which is why I parked
> > the car and started the clutch saga.  While I do that, I'm going to
> > swap the steering rack from my donor car into it.
> >
> > The TO bearing looks pretty bad.  The sheet metal that used to
> > hold the bearing is was all galled-looking.  It basically looked like I
> > would expect from the way it sounded.
> >
> > The flywheel shows discoloration and an uneven surface.  I guess
> > this would be due to the extreme heat of me drag racing?  The
> > pressure plate has a marking on it that seems to indicate it was
> > produced in '87 making it the original clutch with 160k on it.  The
> > flywheel has a decent amount of dust accumulation around it's
> > inside edge.
> >
> > The disc itself wasn't bad, there was still some meat on it before
> > the rivets were flush.  I don't remember noticing if the little
> > dampening springs were still tight.  (On my Saturn SL2, I changed
> > that clutch out at 130k, and some of those little springs were
> > totally loose in their little housings.  That clutch had seen a few
> > drags too.)
> >
> > The pressure plate fingers looked to be highly polished, with only a
> > little actual wear.  (The PP from the above mentioned non-Audi was
> > significantly worn thin and would have lost the tips eventually.  To
> > is credit, the plastic-housed TO bearing was intact on that car.)
> >
> > I would have to say that the clutch is in pretty darn good shape for
> > both the age and mileage.  If labor was free and parts were
> > expensive, I would replace just the TO bearing.  But of course it's
> > not and I don't want to have to pull a 5kcstq tranny anytime soon,
> > so I'll be replacing all the usual suspects.
> >
> > The clutch might have lasted even longer, had it not been treated to
> >  the 160k wakeup call that I gave the (whole car and myself too)
> > when I chipped/wg'ed it.  But then again, the bearing might just dry
> > out and start failing after 12 years.
> >
> > By the way, when they lightened the flywheels for the MC-2
> > motors, did they just get rid of that whole meaty edge, and just
> > lengthen the timing pins?  It almost seems that way, comparing
> > the two (not side-by-side).  I haven't seen a 200q clutch yet, but I
> > imagine the pressure plate looks totally different, like domed
> > instead of flat?
> >
> > The question that pops up is whether that whole big meaty edge
> > can be machined off and longer pins installed, to be used with the
> > newer style clutch?  I'm just curious, this go around my 5kcstq will
> > be getting a stock clutch.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Ken