034 EFI

[auditude at neta.com]

On 4 Dec 2001, at 18:57, Huw Powell wrote:
>
> > Ok, I read Javad's recent post describing it as much easier to install the
> > efi and a CIS system a car that didnt have it.  I understand and accept
> > that.  But it looks like my current thought process is that I still have to
> > integrate the ignition side of the MAC11 setup into the 4ksq.
> >
> > What I'm wondering is how big of a job is it to swap over just the ignition
> > side of a 5kcstq into a 4ksq.
>
> I don't think it is worth it if you've got EFI on the horizon.  here's
> why:
>
> 1. the ignition and fuel system are integrated so you need more junk
> 2. the 5kt ignition system depends on a flywheel sender or cam pins for
> triggering
> 3. the 2.3 (NF/NG) system is separate from fuel system, and uses a 5
> window distributor to trigger it
> 4. You can put in the turbo plumbing, install and fire up EFI, and still
> use the stock ignition system at first.
>
> I don't see the point of installing all that wiring from the 5kt just to
> rip it out later.  Just do the turbo/EFI work, get it smogged, take a
> breather and start looking for your ignition system donor vehicle (there
> are many!)

I was thinking about this.  It means that I would have to use the
4ksq flywheel, and not the 200tq one I am planning using, right?
Unless I had the 4kq/NF/NG timing pins put in the 200tq.  So far
the machine shops I've talked to don't even want to deal with the
existing timing pins, I can imagine their reponse to some custom
work.

I recently realized I wasn't thinking about this in the right
perspective.  I was thinking I am getting close to starting the swap,
but with these new ideas it means I may have more stuff to collect,
like a KH intake manifold and throttle body and NF/NG ignition.  So
these ideas put me further away from finishing (starting?), which I
was thinking is bad.  I feel like I should have just bought an MC-2
long block.  All the other stuff is pieced together onesy-twosey as
it turns out.

However, letting all that go and just looking at this pragmatically, I
would have to say that all this stuff has the potential to make a
pretty straightforward installation.

Wow, all this list knowledge is coming together it seems.  Before
too long listers will be swapping their 034 EFI fueling maps and
stuff, like the QLCC code before it.  I think this is big! :-)

It would be pretty cool to have 300hp EFI in the '88 5kcstq too!

Without all the vacuum hoses and rubber boots and WOT sensors
and other old Audi stuff to break, maybe we can keep our cars on
the road for even longer!

Ken