Who's page is this? http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/c/j/cjl169/ I've not noticed it before, and searching for the page owner's email address on the Audifans page, and also Google comes up with no hits. He/she knows of the q-list, there is a link there. Nice .wav files of 5 cylinders. There are some pics of Tim Valencia's 4kcstq race car, so maybe a norcal lister? Later, Keno