pics of cibies vs. hella h1/h4's?

[Ken Keith]

So, are the early, flat style eurolites only made by Cibie (and Cibie 
only makes the early, flat style)?  And the later, sloped style 
eurolight is only made by Hella (and Hella only makes the later, 
sloped style)?

Thanks,

Ken

On 1 Feb 2001, at 11:35, quk at isham-research.freeserve.co.uk wrote:

> 
> > I have various pics of ur-q's, and some of them appear to have
> > better (to my eye) looking eurolites than others.  They are more of
> > a faceted design, with a clearer lens.  These must be Cibie
> > eurolites, then?
> 
> There are two versions of Eurolights for the ur-quattro - one for the
> straight front car and one for the sloping front.  The latter look
> better.
> 
> > As a matter of fact, some seem to have one headlight looking
> > clearer than the other.  I wonder if these are mismatched.  I would
> > tend to doubt it, it's probably just the angle.
> 
> Mismatched headlights are common.  The main reasons are either that
> one has been replaced due to accident damage or that one has had water
> ingress - quite common with the otherwise excellent Cibies.  The rear
> moulding is actually two pieces of plastic fused together, although
> this is hard to see.  The seam on the outside of the car sometimes
> cracks.
> 
> A very common sight with early one-piece headlights is 'brown eyes'.
> The H1 reflectors on these cars are very prone to desilvering and it's
> quite common to find cars with the H1s _painted_ with silver-coloured
> paint!
> 
> > Could anyone post a link to a pic of some bonafide Cibie eurolites,
> > perhaps one of some Hellas too for comparison?  Also, is it true
> > that the lenses on Cibies are not replaceable?  Or is it that they
> > are too expensive?
> 
> There's an old low-resolution photo of F600 on the net:
> 
> http://www.isham-research.freeserve.co.uk/quattro/f600.jpg
> 
> If I get time today I'll take a better one.
> 
> Cibie lenses _are_ replaceable and also aren't expensive - about $40.
> I did it to F600 and it made one _H at LL_ of a difference.  I've also
> done it to the bus.
> 
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