I do not profess to be a great photographer but for those of you seeking answers to urq/3B plumbing queries, here are a few shots of the plumbing into and out of my stock urq IC. HTH, -Jon link: http://radiantenergy.org/~jon/ Jon Archibald Civil Design W&H Pacific A Member of the IT Group 503.372.3616 jarchibald at whpacific.com