speaker help

[Lawrence C Leung]

Good Coax's suspend the tweeter over the woofer. Woofer dust caps are
intact, as the wires to the tweeter run along the tweeter's support
frame. I've seen that even in the $79 Jensens, etc. I personnally haven't
ever seen a coax leave an opening in the dust cap to run wires to the
tweeter. 

LL - NY

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 01:18:14 -0500 Ameer Antar <ameer at snet.net> writes:
>i'm pretty sure the 5k's used a special fit 4" spks in the front and 
>special ones in the rear deck too. I couldn't find any spkrs that 
>would fit 
>the front, so I used 4" spks and sealed up the gaps w/ silicone. I 
>think a 
>5" will fit in there, but you'd have to trim the speaker plate.
>
>Anyways, all I run is the 4" Boston Acoustics up front. These are the 
>
>components, not the coaxial type. I took out the rear speakers, and 
>put a 
>12" sub and box I built in high school in the trunk. The sound is 
>great, 
>and even in the rear, you can hear the music clearly cuz I mounted the 
>
>tweets pretty high. I figured I could use holes for the original rear 
>
>speakers to get sound from the trunk into the cabin. Everything sounds 
>
>great and I ran the speakers and the sub off the head unit! I bought 
>one of 
>those Pioneer head units that has MOSFET45 which allows you to use the 
>
>right rear spkr output as a sub out, and has much better sound quality 
>due 
>to the higher voltages available using MOSFET's. My system won't win 
>any 
>showdowns, but sounds very powerful from inside the car. I plan later 
>to 
>amp the fronts and rear sub...nothing crazy...maybe 30W up front and 
>100W 
>in back. This just to relieve the load off the head unit [and wiring], 
>and 
>for even cleaner sound.
>
>I really recommend components...coax speakers are a joke in my 
>opinion. If 
>you think about what speakers are actually supposed to do, you realize 
>the 
>problem w/ coaxials. The tweeter is mounted in the center of the 
>woofer, so 
>there's a hole in the woofer cone where the dust cap would usually be. 
>I've 
>seen gaps around this hole of 1/8" or more. The woofer is s'posed to 
>push 
>lots of air to make low freq. sounds. Air moves, as most things, in 
>the 
>path of least resistance, so it's much easier for a bit of this air to 
>slip 
>between this gap, than get pushed out by the woofer cone. So the 
>woofer 
>will be pounding back and forth, but quite a bit of air won't be 
>moving or 
>won't be moving appropriately. That makes very poor efficiency...low 
>volume 
>from high power consumption. A component system has separate tweets 
>and 
>woofers, so nothing has holes in it. It's pretty expensive, but IMO, 
>anything else is a waste. I paid ~$180 for the Boston Acoustics, but 
>there 
>is cheaper. You can even build your own if your looking for cheaper 
>options. A lot of car co's sell individual drivers and there are much 
>
>better/cheaper ones at speaker distributors like zalytron, parts 
>express, 
>etc. You need to make a crossover, but parts are cheap and you can 
>design 
>one w/ free software. good luck.
>
>-ameer
>
>At 12:14 AM 2/22/2001 , you wrote:
>>Hey all.. I've decided to go ahead and upgrade the audio on my 86 
>5ks.. As
>>explained in a previous message it was bastardized some time ago.. so 
>just
>>pretend I am starting from scratch :>
>>
>>Firstly, I got the SONY CDX-1300 cd player/radio at circuitcity on
>>closeout ($189 reduced to $84).
>>
>>I am going to just use 2 6x9 speakers in the rear and the two 3 
>1/2"ers in
>>front.. I may fill the hole where the 10" subs used to be.. but not 
>for a
>>while.
>>
>>I am not planning to use an amp.
>>
>>Any recommendations on the 6x9 speakers?  Also, any recommendations 
>on the
>>3 1/2"ers?  The existing 3 1/2s are shot so I dont use them anyway.. 
>I
>>was thinking about some fullrange 3.5s..  Any experience with brands 
>etc?
>>
>>Also, What sort of 6x9s should I be looking at if I am not planning 
>on
>>using an amp?  Thx!
>>
>>ps. As mentioned, I am looking for a 'good' sound system -- not one 
>of
>>those sound systems you can hear coming a mile away :) .. just 
>something
>>that doesnt buzz too much and can play music at normal levels 
>without
>>distorting it too badly.
>>
>>Thx!
>>-Andrew Sitzer
>