'77 Audi Fox Turbo

[Iain Mannix]

I wonder how the few-but-fast ITB Coupe GT drivers live with stock 
calipers/rotors?  I know one pretty well, and the two things he 
*loves* about the car are simple:

1. Power
2. Brakes

It has more power than most ITB cars, and apparently, the brakes 
are pretty good, too.  

Beats me, never driven a CGT on a track - but I've driven a few other 
cars, and while special care is needed to make stock brakes work in 
a race environment, they can work just fine. 

Maybe try Carbotech, Hawk or Performance Friction - I've used all 
three on various VWs - admittedly lighter than a CGT, but when 
other people were complaining about fade in similar power/weight 
cars(time trials), we were having no problems.  Solid rotors, even.

If the IT guys can do it, so can you:).


Iain Mannix(big brakes are neat, but their "need" is overstated IMHO) 

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 Kwattro at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 01-01-03 10:49:21 EST, you write:
> 
> << Improved Touring cars(SCCA ITS-E) cannot change brakes - just lines and
>  pads.  Wonder how on earth they stop?  (hint, good fluid and good pads will
>  fix a LOT of problems).  People can race 2200+ pound cars with stock brakes
>  all day long - but yours cannot stop from 100?
>   >>
> 
> 
> My GT, about this weight, with stock brakes, and a bad motor, had problems 
> after several laps, although I used the brakes quite sparingly - you have to, 
> if you drive a 2300lb car with lots o suspension and little o horsepower.  
> However, at the Glen, in the chute - downhill, hard on the brakes from 100 
> mph to 60 or so, they started to fade.  I run Ate rotors, super blue, and 
> Pagid pads - a very nice setup.  I'll be swiching to the 2Bennett Big Reds - 
> because of the fade resistance, the additional stopping capacity, the ease of 
> changing pads, and I'll never have to touch the brakes again.  Pad life will 
> be dramatically increased, as will fluid life, I would expect...
> 
> Later!
> Carter
>