Peter Berrevoets writes: > [ 5000S quattro sans turbo ] > ... > Anyone else heard of such a beast? Yes, they exist. Not in large numbers, though. -Ti 01 S4 2.7 biturbo quattro 84 5000S 2.1 turbo 80 4000 2.0 -- /// Ti Kan Vorsprung durch Technik /// AMB Research Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA /// ti at amb.org ////// http://www.amb.org/ti/ ///