Turn Off HTML Encoding In Messages

quattro toronto quattro_toronto at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 6 20:51:24 EST 2001


Amen!  HTML is to the Internet as Fries is to BIC MACs.
Welcome to the Information Age folks!



>From: Ameer Antar <ameer at snet.net>
>To: Robert Myers <robert at s-cars.org>, "Beatty, Robert" <BeattyR at ummhc.org>
>CC: <quk at isham-research.freeserve.co.uk>, quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: RE: Turn Off HTML Encoding In Messages
>Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:25:34 -0500
>
>Just b/c it says "MIME Version 1.0" DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE USING MIME...That
>header is used to indicate that if the message had anything other than
>text, it would encode it using MIME. MIME is sort of like winzip...it
>compresses files and scripts to go along w/ emails. My email headers
>contain the "MIME Version 1.0", but my messages are text only. What tells
>you if the email is text or html is this header: "Content-Type:
>text/plain". Otherwise this would say "Content-Type: mixed/html" or
>something similar.
>
>I think this whole MIME craze is out of hand.  Waste of bandwidth you say?
>How about all the WOB used by people trying to figure out their settings. I
>really think it would be impossible to get everyone on the list to change.
>Even on technical lists html is very common. As I see it there are two main
>ways harm can be done from MIME messages: 1. opening an encoded attachment
>or 2. the html code in the message calls up a dangerous script. In the
>first case you should NEVER open an attachment if yer not expecting it. In
>the second case, the client gives a warning about running a script first or
>other such code. If you bear these thing in mind, you might get lucky and
>never have a virus. I've been getting emails for 6 yrs now, and never had
>an experience w/ viruses, even though I read HTML messages...Even though I
>really hate HTML emails, I think it's impossible to eliminate and as long
>as you follow certain rules and common sense, you can read emails as you
>like. Point is let's focus on fixing and making the cars faster ;> rather
>than trying to force everyone [most of which don't know any better, and
>therefore somewhat less of a threat] into absolute adherence to the penal
>code...
>
>My 2 cents: Chill...
>
>-ameer
>
>At 09:18 AM 3/6/2001 , Robert Myers wrote:
>>Bob,
>>
>>I expanded your post headers and copied them and your message
>>below.  Notice that directly above the subject line appears that same MIME
>>1.0 statement that appears to be causing the entire trouble for Phil.
>>
>>It looks like us birds of a feather are flocking together.
>>
>>At 08:10 AM 3/6/01 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>>Phil,
>>>
>>>Could you identify those users either privately or here on the list?  I 
>>>had
>>>no idea i was posting in MIME/HTML until a few weeks ago when you talked
>>>about who you had blocked because they were not posting in text. I then
>>>changed my format.  I think a good deal of the people that are doing it 
>>>are
>>>doing it without knowing they are.  Its a simple change depending on the
>>>email program they are using and I'm sure everyone would like everyone to
>>>get messages from each other.
>>
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>>To: "'quk at isham-research.freeserve.co.uk'"
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>>         quattro at audifans.com
>>Subject: RE: Turn Off HTML Encoding In Messages
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>>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:10:32 -0500
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>>
>>Phil,
>>
>>Could you identify those users either privately or here on the list? I had
>>no idea i was posting in MIME/HTML until a few weeks ago when you talked
>>about who you had blocked because they were not posting in text. I then
>>changed my format. I think a good deal of the people that are doing it are
>>doing it without knowing they are. Its a simple change depending on the
>>email program they are using and I'm sure everyone would like everyone to
>>get messages from each other.
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: isham-research.freeserve.co.uk at pop.pol.net.uk
>>[mailto:isham-research.freeserve.co.uk at pop.pol.net.uk]
>>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:00 PM
>>To: quattro at audifans.com
>>Subject: Turn Off HTML Encoding In Messages
>>
>>
>> > I should note that sending HTML-encoded emails to friends is often
>> > not such a big deal, but sending anything but plain text to a
>> > listserv (like the A-list) is a breach of etiquette.  It does not
>> > make one popular.
>>
>>It's worth noting that HTML, MIME, etc., are explicitly banned from
>>Dan's lists. Around thirty people, however, regularly ignore Dan's
>>request - including some regulars who I would normally expect to
>>behave better.
>>
>>Dan is a low-enforcement 'police yourselves' kind of guy who seems to
>>prefer keeping a low profile on these matters, making it all the more
>>embarrassing when he finally is roused to comment.
>>
>>Mixed text/HTML posts are not only against the wishes of our host,
>>they're anti-social, potentially dangerous, and deleted on arrival
>>here. So if anyone's waiting for an answer from me - check your
>>email settings.
>>
>>--
>>  Phil
>>
>>
>>Bob
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