windshield fluid sprayer

Larry C Leung l.leung at juno.com
Thu Nov 29 20:05:00 EST 2001


This is what I recall.....

LL - NY

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:29:33 -0600 "Steve Marinello"
<smarinello at telocity.com> writes:
>Actually...
>
>I believe that, within a particular range of temps, the greater delta
>T has
>the heat transfer rate being higher so that the hot water will freeze
>faster....but that's simplifyig it.  I think it also has to do with
>the
>strange and wonderful properties of water and how fast it will enter
>a
>particular crystalline form from a particular starting temp at a given
>rate
>of heat transfer/loss.
>
>I ran into this somewhere way back when in the '70's as an undergrad
>at
>Stanford.  But lots of gray matter has died since then, so my memories
>could
>be really full of it.
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob" <mx at snet.net>
>To: "Phil Payne" <quattro at isham-research.com>
>Cc: <duane at zk3.dec.com>; "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
>Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:56 PM
>Subject: Re: windshield fluid sprayer
>
>
>> Im hoping the results are universal (no american HS for me, good
>guess
>though...)
>> I think resident expert Mr. Meyers said it best:
>>
>> --
>> Bullpucky, Phil.  Absolute nonsense.  The colder sample freezes
>> first.  There is simply no way around thermodynamics.  The hot
>sample must
>> first lose heat to reach the starting temperature of the colder
>> sample.  This takes time during which the colder sample has reached
>a
>lower
>> temperature and/or has started already to freeze.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil Payne wrote:
>>
>> > *This message was transferred with a trial version of
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>> > > WHOA! What? Was I asleep in high school?  Here on planet earth
>its a
>little different...
>> >
>> > No, you went to an _American_ high school - where they teach how
>they
>think things should be, not how they are.
>> >
>> > Do a Google search on 'Mpemba'.
>> >
>> > --
>> >   Phil Payne
>> >   http://www.isham-research.com/quattro
>> >   +44 7785 302 803
>> >   +49 173 6242039
>>
>>
>
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