I have seen 3 or 4 myself... Javad >Interesting, I haven't, but YMMV. The last 85 N/A >car I had in my shop, 120k on the original and >trashed hydr motor (er 3pcs came out) mount, had >a total of 4 studs holding it in place. Manifold is >clean and uncracked. Warped beyond belief, but >not cracked.