quattro digest, Vol 1 #3835 - 7 msgs

[Larry C Leung]

My take on the cheap cars running blue bulbs are that they don't have
much glare 'cuz they don't put out much light. The stupid blue bulbs
filter out the majority of the light they have (majority of incandescent
lights is in the yellow to orange range in color temp, precisely what
the blue filter filter's out). So the issue, if it is "ricers" that are
causing
the complaints, is that they run their high's all the time trying to make
up for the poor light they have. It's mostly, IMHO, SUV's that cause the
complaints, their lights are so high to begin with so that many lower
cars are right in their low beams, many carry heavy loads, mis-aiming
the lights higher, and many of their drivers are obnoxious enough to
run up on your rear bumper, thus shining their light right in. Add to
that
their popularity and numbers (compared to Luxo cars), they would be a
source of constant irritation.

LL - NY


On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:30:16 -0400 <David.Ullrich at ferguson.com> writes:
> They way I read it was:
>
> 1. People are complaining about the glare from HIDs.
> 2. HIDs are mostly found on high end imports.
>
> Not that it is the HIDs on high end imports that are getting
> complaints. I'd bet if the complainers had to say what brand/model
> car had them, host would be inexpensive imports (rice).
>
> It's just a matter of semantics and the way you read it, but it
> makes a big difference in interpretation.
>
> Dave
>
> Too Many Toys:
> 2002 VW Jetta GLS 1.8T Tiptronic
> 1993 RX-7 R1
> 1987.5 Audi Coupe GT "Special Build" 2.3 - Anthracite Black
> 1985 Chevy Impala Interceptor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C Leung [mailto:l.leung at juno.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:25 PM
> To: quattro at audifans.com; David Ullrich - 0018 HQ;
> AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com
> Subject: Re: quattro digest, Vol 1 #3835 - 7 msgs
>
>
> Note, the press release mentions HID's in high dollar luxo brands.
> Hence,
>
> HID lookalikes (which generally to my old eyes look really dull
> constantly)
> probably aren't what's being complained about.
>
> HID's in SUV's. Now THERE's an issue. Since the press release
> mentions
> potential maximum lamp heights, I think that that issue would be
> addressed.
>
> LL - NY
>
>
>
> > Subject: RE: HID lights
> > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:01:01 -0400
> > From: <David.Ullrich at ferguson.com>
> > To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> >
> > I'd bet any money that 99% of the complaints about HIDs are due
> > people mist=
> > aking the fake "xenon" bulbs that r1cers use for real HIDs. Those
>
> > ARE obnox=
> > ious. Real HIDs, when properly aimed, have very low glare.
> Granted,
> > I do fi=
> > nd HIDs on huge SUVs terribly blinding when they pull up right
> > behind my li=
> > ttle Coupe, but that is more a function of how high they are, not
>
> > the light=
> > s themselves.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Too Many Toys:
> > 2002 VW Jetta GLS 1.8T Tiptronic
> > 1993 RX-7 R1
> > 1987.5 Audi Coupe GT "Special Build" 2.3 - Anthracite Black
> > 1985 Chevy Impala Interceptor
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Riebs / Audi V8
> [mailto:AudiV8 at 1stchoicegranite.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:47 AM
> > To: chris miller; quattro at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: HID lights
> >
> >
> > Yes! Finally! They're going to decide that we MUST drive with our
>
> > light
> > COMPLETELY off, and use a white cane to find our way at night
> > instead!
> >
> > WTF??
> >
> > Michael L. Riebs
> > Grand Rapids, Michigan
> >
> > '90 V8Q
> > '98 A6QA
> >
> > www.1stchoicegranite.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chris miller" <chris.miller at usa.com>
> > To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:57 AM
> > Subject: HID lights
> >
> >
> > Feds plan lighting rules
> > By Harry Stoffer
> > Automotive News / August 12, 2002
> > WASHINGTON -- Federal regulators have a plan for dealing with
> > mounting
> > complaints about high-intensity discharge headlights and other
> > vehicle
> > lighting issues.  Regulators intend to propose rules during the
> > first half
> > of 2003 and to adopt them in the second half of the year, said Rae
>
> > Tyson, a
> > spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
> >
> > Two weeks ago, Tyson said he did not know of a timetable for
> > rulemaking.
> > After Automotive News reported the comments last week, Tyson said
> he
> > learned
> > of "a rough schedule" for addressing the lighting issues.
> >
> > The proposed rules will deal with the maximum permissible height
> of
> > auxiliary lamps. They also will address the light emitted by
> > xenon-gas-filled, high-intensity discharge headlamps, or HIDs,
> which
> > are
> > used mostly by imported luxury brands, and by HID look-alikes,
> Tyson
> > said.
> > NHTSA previously announced that it also plans to make a decision
> > this year
> > on limiting the brightness of daytime running lights.
> >
> > NHTSA is paying more attention to lighting issues in part because
>
> > the number
> > of older drivers, who often are more sensitive to glare, is
> growing
> > rapidly.
> >
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