All this talk about snow tires reminds me that I have a set of four 4x108/14" rims (flying saucer style) with the plastic covers in my garage - straight, true, un-gouged. These would make excellent snow wheels for someone - $100 buys the set of four. I'm in Daytona Beach, Florida, where "snow" is either unknown or illegal . . . Best Regards, Mike Arman