Running again! (was: '86 4kq back to no start)

Thu Dec 19 19:30:11 EST 2002

   I think maybe the cold start valve was not connected all the way.

=Pilot Error!

   Makes me think of a funny post I read once on the Miata list:

"Not only is my mechanic an idiot, he's sleeping with my girlfriend!"

I'd like to say that if it screws with me again it's history, but I like it
too much.

  Regarding the clapped out-ness of it:  I bought it with 195k, up to 207.
Paid $1000.  It's rusty.  The rear door handles are a shambles.  75% of the
windows work.  Heat is iffy.  Rear diff drain plug frozen and stripped.
Leaks.  Tranny leaks.  Engine oil leaks a bit.  Trunk leaks like mad.
Coolant leak.  Tailights are a mess, plate lights don't work at all.
Exhaust leak.  Very loud 'custom' exhaust.  Makes a variety of weird sounds-
the moaning sound at 3k rpm is one of my favorites.

  Having said that, it's one of the best cars I've ever owned. I've got a
currently not-really-drivable '87 4kcsq with 67k on it (nearly rust free) to
take it's place after the '86 is retired, though, and I'll put that in play
next summer.  The '86 might still have some life left, but after this winter
it'll be worth more to me as parts.

  I was wondering too about getting the fuel distributors rebuilt.  What
goes bad?  Rebuilt units sure are spendy...

Robert

>From: james accordino <ssgacc at yahoo.com>
>To: R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: '86 4kq back to no start, CIS help please.
>Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:08:24 -0800 (PST)
>
>Aaah, rust.  That is a killer.  Clapped out?  I bought
>my current 89 200q from a junkyard 3-4 yrs. ago with
>140k miles.  Needed work.  $970.00  Now at 247k and
>still the daily driver and I love it.  For now.
>
>Jim Accordino
>
>--- R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >    If I decide it's gotta go, I'll pull every part
> > that I think I'd want and
> > donate the rest to charity unless some local lister
> > is dying to own a
> > clapped-out and rusty 4kq with no
> > interior/windows/regulators/fuel injection
> > :).  I'll put it up here first as a matter of
> > course, though!
> >
> >   Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: james accordino <ssgacc at yahoo.com>
> > >To: R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com>,
> > quattro at audifans.com
> > >Subject: Re: '86 4kq back to no start, CIS help
> > please.
> > >Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:50:29 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >I can't answer your question, but God forbid you
> > bave
> > >to dump it, please send it to a better home.  Like
> > Huw
> > >(always looking for another Audi) or Chris at Force
> > 5,
> > >so it can be "recycled",  Hopefuffly your loss (and
> > I
> > >hope it's not) can be someone elses gain.
> > >
> > >Jim Accordino
> > >
> > >--- R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >    As you may remember my 'perfectly reliable'
> > '86
> > > > 4kq developed a stalling
> > > > problem last week.  It would start normally,
> > then
> > > > stall right away when the
> > > > CSV shut down.  I checked the fuel pump delivery
> > > > rate (great), the system
> > > > pressure (normal), and the differential pressure
> > > > (exactly the same as the
> > > > system pressure, should have been 3-7 psi
> > below).
> > > >
> > > >   Because it was convienient to do so, I swapped
> > in
> > > > the differential
> > > > pressure regulator from my '87 and 'solved' the
> > > > problem for 150 miles.  This
> > > > came to an abrupt end when I tried to leave work
> > to
> > > > drive home yesterday.
> > > >
> > > >   The current problem is a _total_ non-start; it
> > > > won't even TRY to fire, not
> > > > even a little bit.  Today I verified compression
> > > > (good) and spark (fine).
> > > > Checked system pressure (same as before, 79.5
> > psi;
> > > > in spec) and differential
> > > > pressure and found it to be 79.5 psi...
> > Resistance
> > > > of the differential
> > > > pressure regulator is fine.
> > > >
> > > >    The next test is to check the return volume
> > from
> > > > 'the lower chamber of
> > > > the fuel distributor'.  There are two hardlines
> > > > coming off the fuel dist;
> > > > which one is it?  I'd guess the smaller, as the
> > > > expected flow rate is low.
> > > >
> > > >    This test should implicate either the
> > > > differential pressure regulator or
> > > > the fuel distributor.  Since the DPR swap seemed
> > to
> > > > cure the problem last
> > > > time ([un]happy coincidence?) I sort of suspect
> > that
> > > > might be the problem
> > > > now.  What underlying condition would fail two
> > DPR's
> > > > in quick succession?
> > > >
> > > >    I don't know enough about CIS to figure that
> > out,
> > > > and I'm in a bit of a
> > > > spot.  It's parked in staff parking in the
> > office
> > > > building my company is in,
> > > > which will be fine for a couple days but too
> > much
> > > > longer and there might be
> > > > some frowning going on.  Also, I'm moving in two
> > > > weeks and don't have a lot
> > > > of free time to devote to a suddenly unreliable
> > car.
> > > >  If I can't get this
> > > > sorted and kind of quickly, I'll be forced to
> > scrap
> > > > it :(
> > > >
> > > >   I've never done the t-belt, no idea when it
> > was
> > > > done either- is there a
> > > > quick way to verify cam timing?
> > > >
> > > >   What about the damp-ecu syndrome- is there a
> > quick
> > > > way to check for that?
> > > > Will the normal start/cold enrichment checks
> > verify
> > > > ecu function adequately?
> > >
> > >
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