Gas line leaking on '93 100 csq

[william r gerwig]

That line should be nylon with barbed fittings on each end. Your local
Aeroquip, or Weatherhead hose dealer should have a barb splice of the
correct diameter to repair your line. (It takes special tools to push in!)
If not they can replace the line using your original fittings. Check
"hydraulic hoses" in the yellow pages for one of these shops.
Good Luck.
Bill Gerwig





>From: "Tom B" <dr_hydro at hotmail.com>
>To: quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: Gas line leaking on '93 100 csq
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:31:06 +0000
>
>Howdy all,
>After catching a faint wiff of gas upon exiting the passenger side of my
>wifes car, I took a look underneath the car and found a fuel leak. One of
>the fuel lines is leaking where it goes into a mount located underneath the
>passenger side door, towards the front of the car. I seem to remember other
>posts on this problem, so I took a stroll down archive lane to refresh the
>old brain cells..unfortunately I was unable to find a consensus on a solid,
>reliable fix for this. Any good ideas, besides the obvious of buying a new
>line (shudders at spending that kind of dough this time of year)?
>TIA
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>>Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Re:New front wheel bearing (John Larson)
>>    2. step1:exhaust r&r complete (scott thomas)
>>    3. Re:New front wheel bearing (Tom Nas)
>>    4. Re:Recaro SE in Oak Harbor, Washington ! (Tom Nas)
>>    5. RE:Strut stop bushings for A6 Bilstein shocks (Bob Rossato)
>>    6. Re:step1:exhaust r&r complete (JShadzi at aol.com)
>>    7. Bentley CD for 91 80 - Owner's Manual too? (Fourkguy at aol.com)
>>    8. 4kq e-brake adjust? (George Nimmer)
>>    9. Xmas :) (Jukka Majanen)
>>   10. Re:Eibach springs on 4kq? (Brady Moffatt)
>>   11. NG-NF shortblock differences? (Dave Glubrecht)
>>   12. Re:4kq e-brake adjust? (Ray Rollins)
>>   13. Olympic 1988 5TQ Sequel (Dr. Ian McArthur)
>>   14. Re:Strut stop bushings for A6 Bilstein shocks (Huw Powell)
>>   15. Re:4kq e-brake adjust? (George Nimmer)
>>   16. Re:Strange badge engineering (Jim Haseltine)
>>   17. Re:Strange badge engineering (Huw Powell)
>>
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>>Message: 1
>>From: "John Larson" <j.d.larson at verizon.net>
>>To: <tnas at euronet.nl>, <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Re: New front wheel bearing
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:47:33 -0800
>>
>>I suggest the inner race has worn away, not been the subject of a "monkey
>>lad"s grinding adventure.  If you let a noisy wheel bearing go too long,
>>that's an inevitable result.  In this case, the monkey lad was the
>>operator.
>>No offense, Tom, but that would be  you  .......  John
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 2
>>From: "scott thomas" <scott at dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:42:42 -0500
>>To: quattro at audifans.com
>>Subject: step1:exhaust r&r complete
>>
>>I took the uncracked and unwarped exhaust off my kh turbo cylinder
>>head. Next, I diassembled the mc1 head/intake/exhaust. The exaust and
>>all of the studs came off without a single hitch. Only two studs
>>remained and they came off easily by using two exhaust nuts with the
>>shoulders facing each other. Just to be safe, I kept going back and
>>forth to clean the threads and allow some lube to get in there. The
>>stud holes were shiny and clean, so I'm going to leave it the way it
>>is.
>>
>>Additionally, I'm lucky the previous owner of the 5ktq did a half
>>assed job of reassembling the upper end; all of the intake bolts were
>>a tad over hand tight, with two missing. I guess that's why I had a
>>rich mixture.
>>
>>I'm still out on wether to use loctite blue or red, or nothing on the
>>studs. The reason why I'm doing this job is because one stud kept
>>backing out (even though I had a broken one). It wasn't the nut, but
>>the stud. Chances are, I'll go without.
>>
>>For the folks that do use loctite, red or blue, and how long has your
>>setup held up for? Loctite on the nuts, too? I know that the assembly
>>get way hotter than the loctite can handle, but just wanted to know.
>>
>>Next, I'm not so worried about the entire job as I am about
>>reinstalling the assembly myself. That thing is heavy! I just don't
>>want to damage the head gasket. Any BTDT'S? Also, I'm gonna be doing
>>my timing belt along with the job. I have a breaker bar and pipe and
>>I'm going to go the monkey lad route and leave it in gear with the
>>brakes applied or use the starter. The latter is a trick I've don'e
>>several times by mistake; I forgot the ratchet on the crank nut and
>>started the engine. It works, though
>>
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:11:51 +0100
>>To: "John Larson" <j.d.larson at verizon.net>, <quattro at audifans.com>
>>From: Tom Nas <tnas at euronet.nl>
>>Subject: Re: New front wheel bearing
>>
>>At 08:47 21-12-02 -0800, John Larson wrote:
>> >I suggest the inner race has worn away, not been the subject of a
>>"monkey
>> >lad"s grinding adventure.  If you let a noisy wheel bearing go too long,
>> >that's an inevitable result.  In this case, the monkey lad was the
>>operator.
>> >No offense, Tom, but that would be  you  .......  John
>>
>>I was wondering about that, but my mechanic friend and his colleague told
>>me it was clearly grinding damage. Just one score mark and there was a
>>grinding pattern. About 3-4 mm wide, about 1 mm deep and 'snaking' in
>>shape, with rounded ends. Looked like it was made by an angle grinder, on
>>close observation. Didn't bing my digital camera or I'd have photographed
>>it.
>>
>>Actually, besides the damage to the brake back plate, there was no
>>evidence
>>of my prolonged use with a bad wheel bearing.
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:01:27 +0100
>>To: quattro at audifans.com
>>From: Tom Nas <tnas at euronet.nl>
>>Subject: Re: Recaro SE in Oak Harbor, Washington !
>>Cc: Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
>>
>>Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
>>
>> >"Doug Johnson" <ur-quattro at msn.com> wrote:
>> > >I'll be in Kent for Christmas.
>> >
>> >I'm not sure I like where this is going...
>>
>>Hahahahahahaha!
>>
>>
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>>Message: 5
>>From: "Bob Rossato" <bob.rossato at att.net>
>>To: "Mihnea Cotet" <mik at info.fundp.ac.be>,
>>	"George Kotjarapgolus" <gkot at adelphia.net>,
>>	"Quattro Digest" <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: RE: Strut stop bushings for A6 Bilstein shocks
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:17:11 -0500
>>
>>Yes, the bilstein front struts have an integrated bump stop so you do not
>>reuse the factory one.  The bilstein strut is designed to be upside down,
>>which is why the shaft is a much larger diameter, and the bump stop is
>>built
>>into the bottom of the strut cartridge.  With the regard to the dust boot,
>>you just use the original factory piece.  The dust boot picks up on the
>>outer diameter of the top spring plate and therefore is not affected by
>>the
>>piston diameter.  This is the case on the C4 chassis.  You didn't mention
>>if
>>this was a C4 or C5 based A6, but I'm assuming the same would be the case
>>on
>>the C5.  Double check to be sure.  And don't bother with the aftermarket
>>dust boots that the different vendors sell.  Just get it at the dealer.
>>They're around $12 each.  I found the aftermarket ones don't fit very well
>>on the bottom clip and keep coming off the retainer.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: quattro-admin at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
>> > Behalf Of Mihnea Cotet
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 11:03 AM
>> > To: George Kotjarapgolus; Quattro Digest
>> > Subject: Re: Strut stop bushings for A6 Bilstein shocks
>> >
>> >
>> > George,
>> >
>> > If the Bilsteins have a bigger shaft than the stock shocks (i.e. they
>>are
>> > of the Sprint variety or maybe it's called differently in the US?) you
>> > don't need any bump stops or stock dust boots. The bump stops are
>> > integrated in the strut cartridge and you have to use the
>> > Bilstein-supplied
>> > dust boots.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > Mihnea
>> >
>> > At 10:30 21/12/2002 -0500, George Kotjarapgolus wrote:
>> >
>> > >My mechanic was installing the new Bilstein strut inserts and
>> > just called me
>> > >to say the shaft on the new Bilsteins is larger than the hole on the
>>old
>> > >rubber strut stop.  I tried calling APS but they are closed.
>> > One would not
>> > >think we are to discard them, but APS never said anything about
>>needing
>> > >special stops.  In fact, I had bought 2 new ones only to find
>> > out they will
>> > >not work with the Bilstein.  Does anyone have any wisdom here.  I
>>recall
>> > >some earlier saying they had a problem installing the Bilstein but do
>>not
>> > >recall their resolution.
>> > >
>> > >Do anyone have any thoughts her.  Bilstein tech department does not
>>open
>> > >until Monday
>> > >
>> > >George Kotjarapoglus  gkot at adelphia.net
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>--__--__--
>>
>>Message: 6
>>From: JShadzi at aol.com
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:28:22 EST
>>Subject: Re: step1:exhaust r&r complete
>>To: scott at dreamtheater.zzn.com, quattro at audifans.com
>>
>>--
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>><<I'm still out on wether to use loctite blue or red, or nothing on the
>>studs. The reason why I'm doing this job is because one stud kept
>>backing out (even though I had a broken one). It wasn't the nut, but
>>the stud. Chances are, I'll go without.>>
>>
>>Scott, I use Blue on the studs only, the studs are buried in the cyl head,
>>it
>>will not get too hot to burn off loctite blue or red, red's a little
>>aggressive and those studs are finicky the way it is.  I use blue as
>>standard
>>and it prevents all backing out problems that are very common with these
>>cars.  Going without will mean you may find missing studs ocassionally as
>>the
>>do get loose.  The other good measure is to use NEW locking nuts as they
>>are
>>more secure than reused nuts.  Any locking compound on the nut will burn
>>off,
>>its useless there.
>>
>>
>> > <<Next, I'm not so worried about the entire job as I am about
>> > reinstalling the assembly myself. That thing is heavy! >>
>>
>>You should find a helper to help lift it, don't try doing your self, one
>>false move and you could have a nice gouge in the bottom of your head.
>>
>><<> my timing belt along with the job. I have a breaker bar and pipe and
>> > I'm going to go the monkey lad route and leave it in gear with the
>> > brakes applied or use the starter. >>
>>
>>A bolt fits nicely in a drivers side tranny hole that engages the
>>flywheel,
>>a
>>much better method IMO, lemme know if you have any questions.
>>
>>Javad
>>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 7
>>From: Fourkguy at aol.com
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:44:30 EST
>>Subject: Bentley CD for 91 80 - Owner's Manual too?
>>To: Quattro at audifans.com
>>
>>--
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>>Anyone got these things??
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Jeff
>>
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>>
>>Message: 8
>>Subject: 4kq e-brake adjust?
>>From: George Nimmer <george164 at earthlink.net>
>>To: quattro at audifans.com
>>Organization:
>>Date: 21 Dec 2002 13:07:43 -0500
>>
>>--
>>--
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>>I need to adjust the e-brake on an '84 4kq for it to pass state
>>inspection.  The handle pulls waaaay up high (but works fine).
>>
>>I checked out the brief section in the Bentley manual and then went
>>under the car to have a look.  The adjusting bolt is rather rusty, but
>>more importantly, how do you get to it with the exhaust and drive shaft
>>in the way?  Looks to me like I'd need to drop the drive shaft to even
>>get my hands on the adjusting bolt...  Any thoughts?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>George
>>'84 and '85 4kq's
>>
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>>Message: 9
>>From: "Jukka Majanen" <jiipm at sci.fi>
>>To: "quattro" <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Xmas :)
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:30:39 +0200
>>
>>Hi All
>>
>>I have been only a little in this forum this year, because of my job and
>>some other sakes ( been getting digest and reading posts, but not all ).
>>
>>Just wanted to wish You all audi-people Merry Christmas.
>>
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/audifinns/files/hupia%20yms/joulu.JPG
>>
>>Oh, it is in Finnish ( I did draw it for our local list yesterday :).
>>
>>Translation is:
>>The title: Merry Xmas to the ring- ( audi ) people.
>>The question: Need some pull assistance?
>>
>>Yours
>>j-pm
>>( Jukka Majanen )
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>Message: 10
>>From: "Brady Moffatt" <bradym at sympatico.ca>
>>To: <Kwattro at aol.com>
>>Cc: <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Re: Eibach springs on 4kq?
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:06:10 -0500
>>
>>Hi All/Carter,
>>
>>Oops, I saw 1986 Audi 4000 ProKit and assumed it would include q's.
>>Obviously not! But they still show up for Urqs at Tire Rack, on special
>>order. Go figure...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Brady
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <Kwattro at aol.com>
>>
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>The pro kit isn't available anymore, though...
>> >
>> > Carter
>>
>>
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>>Message: 11
>>From: "Dave Glubrecht" <daveglu at hotmail.com>
>>To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: NG-NF shortblock differences?
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:21:27 -0800
>>
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>>Are there any differences between the shortblocks on the NG vs. the NF.
>>I need a NG and I have a NG head to put on a NF block that is available.
>>I am fairly certain that they are the same, but would like to verify.
>>   Dave G
>>
>>--__--__--
>>
>>Message: 12
>>From: "Ray Rollins" <rollins_ray at hotmail.com>
>>To: george164 at earthlink.net, quattro at audifans.com
>>Subject: Re: 4kq e-brake adjust?
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:22:46 -0500
>>
>>Geroge,
>>I have this exact problem on my 90 100Q. The best response I got from the
>>list was to remove the parking brake handle. Disconnect the cables from
>>the
>>adjuster then you can remove the handle by removing a pin at the pivot
>>point. Then take out the handle clean the threads and adjust it to the
>>correct lenght. I also bought a 6" 1/4 drive flexible extension to do
>>final
>>adjustments. I will try it over the holliday.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: George Nimmer <george164 at earthlink.net>
>> >To: quattro at audifans.com
>> >Subject: 4kq e-brake adjust?
>> >Date: 21 Dec 2002 13:07:43 -0500
>> >
>> >--
>> >--
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>> >I need to adjust the e-brake on an '84 4kq for it to pass state
>> >inspection.  The handle pulls waaaay up high (but works fine).
>> >
>> >I checked out the brief section in the Bentley manual and then went
>> >under the car to have a look.  The adjusting bolt is rather rusty, but
>> >more importantly, how do you get to it with the exhaust and drive shaft
>> >in the way?  Looks to me like I'd need to drop the drive shaft to even
>> >get my hands on the adjusting bolt...  Any thoughts?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >George
>> >'84 and '85 4kq's
>> >
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>>Message: 13
>>Reply-To: <sutul at telusplanet.net>
>>From: "Dr. Ian McArthur" <sutul at telusplanet.net>
>>To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Olympic 1988 5TQ Sequel
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:44:24 -0700
>>
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>>A merry Christmas sequel to my previous post regarding the 1988 Calgary
>>Winter Olympics special edition 5000 Quattros:
>>
>>1.  For those of you who requested pictures of the cars, let me know if
>>you
>>still want them and I will email them to you privately.
>>
>>2. I now have TWO Olympic sedans!!!  This morning we went to visit our
>>neighbors for Christmas drinks and I discovered (in their wonderful 40' x
>>60' shop) ANOTHER red Olympic sedan.  My wife found it a couple of weeks
>>ago
>>and bought it for me for Christmas.  I thought I was getting more socks.
>>Everyone in the neighborhood except me knew the car was parked there for
>>the
>>last couple of weeks.  Nice present, eh (as we say in Canada).
>>
>>3. Since I bought my wife a ice new digital camera for Christmas, we have
>>a
>>bunch of nice new photos of the cars.  This makes four 5TQs.  I have the
>>two
>>Olympic sedans, my cousin has the Olympic Avant, and we have another Avant
>>parts car (not an Olympic version, but beggars can't be choosers).
>>
>>4.  If any of you want a few pictures, let me know.
>>
>>Hey, this is a very merry Christmas in Alberta Quattro country.  The only
>>problem is we don't have any snow, so I can't show off the three cars in a
>>blizzard.
>>************************************************
>>Dr. Ian McArthur, Consulting by Acronym, Cochrane, Alberta
>>sutul at telusplanet.net
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>>
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>>Message: 14
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:51:27 -0500
>>From: Huw Powell <human747 at attbi.com>
>>Reply-To: human747 at attbi.com
>>Organization: HUMAN Speakers
>>To: George Kotjarapgolus <gkot at adelphia.net>
>>Cc: Quattro Digest <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Re: Strut stop bushings for A6 Bilstein shocks
>>
>>
>>
>> > My mechanic was installing the new Bilstein strut inserts and just
>>called me
>> > to say the shaft on the new Bilsteins is larger than the hole on the
>>old
>> > rubber strut stop.
>>
>>I don't know what your application is here, and I am far from an expert
>>on Bilsteins, but the ones in my 90 don't seem to use bump stops.  Just
>>a nice pretty blue dust cover that was supplied with them.
>>
>>--
>>Huw Powell
>>
>>http://www.humanspeakers.com/
>>
>>http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>>
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>>
>>Message: 15
>>Subject: Re: 4kq e-brake adjust?
>>From: George Nimmer <george164 at earthlink.net>
>>To: George Butler <gwbutler at net1plus.com>
>>Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>>Organization:
>>Date: 21 Dec 2002 14:58:27 -0500
>>
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>>George,
>>
>>Yes, I'll be replacing the rotors, pads, and lines (front and rear)
>>next.  Unless someone replies to this and tells me not to - I'll be
>>using OEM lines, the slotted ATE power discs and ATE pads.  Are the PBR
>>metalmaster pads appropriate for a daily driver?  Any reason NOT to use
>>the orbital-slotted power discs?
>>
>>I had a look at the web page for this Motive power bleeder thingie...
>>looks simple and easy to use, and the price is great compared to some of
>>the other pressure bleeder's I've seen.   I think I'll tell the GF that
>>Santa should put one under the tree ;-)
>>
>>Regards,
>>George
>>
>>On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 13:56, George Butler wrote:
>>
>> > Hi George,
>> >
>> > I just replaced all of the e-brake components outside of the passenger
>> > compartment on my 84 4ksq not more than two months ago.  All you really
>>have
>> > to do is (for convenience,  is to drop the intermediate muffler
>>(between
>>the
>> > cat and rear muffler).  Beyond that you shouldn't have a problem.  Let
>>me
>> > know if you need additional information.  BTW, if you're remotely
>>interested
>> > in bleeding the brake lines after doing your other work, suggest to
>>your
>> > wife or significant other that the job would go much easier with a
>>Motive
>> > pressure bleeder and that Christmas is coming.  I bought one of these
>>units
>> > a few months back and will never use anything else...job was a breeze.
>>Good
>> > luck!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > George B.
>> > Massachusetts
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "George Nimmer" <george164 at earthlink.net>
>> > To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:07 PM
>> > Subject: 4kq e-brake adjust?
>> >
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > --
>> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> > > I need to adjust the e-brake on an '84 4kq for it to pass state
>> > > inspection.  The handle pulls waaaay up high (but works fine).
>> > >
>> > > I checked out the brief section in the Bentley manual and then went
>> > > under the car to have a look.  The adjusting bolt is rather rusty,
>>but
>> > > more importantly, how do you get to it with the exhaust and drive
>>shaft
>> > > in the way?  Looks to me like I'd need to drop the drive shaft to
>>even
>> > > get my hands on the adjusting bolt...  Any thoughts?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > George
>> > > '84 and '85 4kq's
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> > >
>>
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>>Message: 16
>>From: "Jim Haseltine" <Jim at Ur-q.freeserve.co.uk>
>>To: "Brady Moffatt" <bradym at sympatico.ca>, <quattro at audifans.com>,
>>	"Tom Nas" <tnas at euronet.nl>
>>Subject: Re: Strange badge engineering
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:47:54 -0000
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom Nas" <tnas at euronet.nl>
>> >
>> > A 'little' more macho- at a German car show I saw a tuned Opel Astra in
>>the
>> > parking lot, with the emblems reading 'Opel Viagra'. Very creative
>> > cut-and-shut with Vectra and Tigra?
>>
>>Considering the oft-repeated reason for men owning powerful cars, this
>>might
>>be apt.......
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jim Haseltine
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>Message: 17
>>Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:20:14 -0500
>>From: Huw Powell <human747 at attbi.com>
>>Reply-To: human747 at attbi.com
>>Organization: HUMAN Speakers
>>To: Jim Haseltine <Jim at Ur-q.freeserve.co.uk>
>>Cc: Brady Moffatt <bradym at sympatico.ca>, quattro at audifans.com,
>>	Tom Nas <tnas at euronet.nl>
>>Subject: Re: Strange badge engineering
>>
>>
>> > Friend of mine used to run an old Escort Van with the lettering
>>rearranged
>> > to read 'C O R S E T'.
>> > And two weeks ago I was in the daily traffic jam behind a crappy old
>>Opel
>> > Corsa TR (the sedan kind) with the badges cut and shut to read 'OPA'
>> > (grandpa)- very appropriate for the vehicle.
>>
>>Reminds me of my old Nissan truck, on which I had, um, rearranged all
>>the logos, including the big stamping on the tailgate, to read "HUMAN"
>>
>> > > A 'little' more macho- at a German car show I saw a tuned Opel Astra
>>in
>> > the
>> > > parking lot, with the emblems reading 'Opel Viagra'. Very creative
>> > > cut-and-shut with Vectra and Tigra?
>> >
>> > Considering the oft-repeated reason for men owning powerful cars, this
>>might
>> > be apt.......
>>
>>So is the reason I'm content with my normally aspirated 101 hp coupe and
>>130 hp 90Q just a matter of coming to terms with it?
>>
>>--
>>Huw Powell
>>
>>http://www.humanspeakers.com/
>>
>>http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>>
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