innovative fuel delivery systems. was:Engine died on highway - won'tre-start

Dave Glubrecht daveglu at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 2 12:37:57 EST 2002 

Went to an insurance claim where a couple of youth decided to steel a car
from an auto shop.  The briliant youth got into the shop and go the keys to
a car, then they went out to the car started it and drove it out into the
street, where it caught fire and burned.  There was NO carb on the car, just
the fuel line pumping fuel into the intake manifold.

    Dave G


----- Original Message -----
From: "Huw Powell" <audi at mediaone.net>
To: "Tom Donohue" <donohue at netconnx.net>
Cc: "Livolsi, Stephane" <Stephane.Livolsi at investorsgroup.com>; "Audi Quattro
List" <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: innovative fuel delivery systems. was:Engine died on highway -
won'tre-start


> Uh, no snippage, this is just too rich...
>
> I once drove my '76 Vega across town to the garage that diagnosed the
> faulty oil pressure switch ($2) that stopped the fuel pump from running
> with gasoline supplied by a lawnmower gas tank right over the carb, and
> a steady stream of gas that allowed me to sort of drive in 2nd if I kept
> the throttle open.
>
> Don't ever remember having to "limp" an Audi along like that though.
> But then my memory ain't what it used to be...
>
> Tom Donohue wrote:
> >
> > Stephane...either you are close to my vintage (1940) or come from a
"less
> > developed area" where you could do stuff like that (like I did in my
youth...and
> > still would, if my favorite marque wasn't so damn complicated).
Regards, Tom
> >
> > "Livolsi, Stephane" wrote:
> >
> > > Now THAT is innovation.  We don't need no steenkin' fuel distributor,
eh?.
> > > Reminds me of the good old (bad old) days when I was driving 60's and
70's
> > > American iron.  Fuel pump dies? Hole in fuel lines? Punctured gas
tank?
> > > Solution is to rip out the windshield washer tubing and/or various
> > > 'unnecessary' vacuum lines.(can't go buy new stuff cuz you are a
million
> > > miles from anywhere)  and either:
> > > a) use the windshield washer pump to pump fuel from a bottle (pop,
beer,
> > > wine, paint, whatever) sitting on the seat to the carburetor (you do
> > > remember carburetors, eh?)
> > > b) put the bottle on the dash and let gravity do it's thing to get the
fuel
> > > to the carb while a helper regulates the flow by pinching the hose.
> > >
> > > Oh, my , this brings back memories....
> > >
> > > Stephane
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From:         Rave Racer[SMTP:Ravewar at rogers.com]
> > > > Sent:         February 1, 2002 9:26 AM
> > > > To:   q-list; W-T_Audifans; Peter Berrevoets
> > > > Subject:      Re: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     I had this happen to me in my Jetta.  I don't know if yours has
the
> > > > Airflow plate in the intake boot like my Jetta and 4000 do.  I was
doing
> > > > 140
> > > > way out in the boonys when the engine just quit on me.  I was pulled
over
> > > > on
> > > > the side of the road with my freind cranking the engine when someone
> > > > pulled
> > > > up.  The stranger offered me help, but watched while I messed around
with
> > > > stuff.  I opened the intake boot and pulled out the air filter
thinking it
> > > > might be jammed up with something.  I started playing with the fuel
> > > > distributor while my buddy tried starting it.  She fired right up.
The
> > > > stranger had some stuff he was taking to the dump so I asked for the
> > > > string
> > > > from the venetian blinds.  I tied it to the plate and fed it out the
top
> > > > through a unused hole in the boot, out of the hood, through the
passenger
> > > > window and around to my shifting hand.  I drove it like that for two
weeks
> > > > until I could locate a replacement FI distributor.  I never did
figure out
> > > > what was wrong with that old distributor, but it's damn hard
modulating
> > > > your
> > > > fuel flow by hand while driving.
> > > >
> > > >        Rave Racer
> > > > '89 Jetta 1.8L 16V GTX
> > > >  http://www.vwot.org/members/Pete.html
> > > > '87 Audi 4000 Quattro Sedan
> > > >  http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
> > > > '72 Triumph GT6
> > > >  http://motorcities.com/contents/01I3H011116682.html
> > > > '83 Toyota Tercel (yoda)     Possible future Sandrail donor...
Maybe
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Jouko Haapanen <joukoh at sympatico.ca>
> > > > To: q-list <quattro at audifans.com>; W-T_Audifans
> > > > <w-t_audifans at yahoogroups.com>; Peter Berrevoets <pjberr at rogers.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My UrQ did the same to me once...had me stumped for quite a while.
My
> > > > problem was the pressed in vacuum hose fitting on the rear of the
intake
> > > > manifold from which the ECU and some other vacuum lines initiate.
The
> > > > fitting seemed perfectly fine when viewed (trust me, I was poking
around
> > > > for
> > > > a while), but once I took hold of it, it just slid out of the
manifold.
> > > >
> > > > I pulled it out, cleaned it, and tapped it in with a rubber mallet.
> > > > Worked
> > > > like a charm, but only after being towed and spending an hour or so
under
> > > > the hood scratching my head and going through various component
tests.
> > > >
> > > > I'd check and double check all vacuum fittings....
> > > >
> > > > Jouko Haapanen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: quattro-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of Peter Berrevoets
> > > > Sent: February 1, 2002 11:24
> > > > To: 2 W-T_Audifans; 1 Quattro List
> > > > Subject: Engine died on highway - won't re-start
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Have tried searching the archives but not having much luck...
> > > >
> > > > While driving on the highway the other night, everything was going
fine
> > > > and
> > > > then the engine just died at ~120 kph. Total loss of power, costed
off at
> > > > the next ramp and parked it. Nothing appeared to be amiss, pulled
codes
> > > > and
> > > > got 2221 - intake manifold hose failure to ecu(shouldn't kill
engine), and
> > > > 2214 - engine over rev (not this trip), cleared them, cranked the
engine
> > > > and
> > > > got the same codes again. Had it towed home :-(
> > > >
> > > > Kind of stumped, fuel in tank, lots of battery juice, cranks over
fine
> > > > (new
> > > > battery), but just won't even hint at starting. Usually the code
dump
> > > > would
> > > > give a hint, but they don't seem to make sense. Hose to ecu checks
out
> > > > fine
> > > > but that shouldn't kill the engine, and over rev on starter
cranking? go
> > > > figure.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > Peter Berrevoets
> > > > 1990 200TQ
> > > > 1989 200TQ - Donor
> > > > Toronto, Canada
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>

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