warm beer

[Orin Eman]

> Plus, I would have to ask, if you decided to open a can of beer on a
> street corner in London:
> a)how many police video cameras would spot you and
> b)how long would it take before a polite constable asked you to go indoors?

The whole point was that people regularly do drink on the pavement (sidewalk)
and in car parks (parking lots) outside pubs in England.  Done it
many times myself.  About the only problem I can recall is that
pub owners don't like you walking off with their glasses.  You are
trying to apply the American idea that drinking in public is this
dirty habit; perish the thought that someone 'under-age' might see it.
This idea gets to the point of absurdity when 'minors' cannot be in
a bar area, but can be in a restaurant area and there is merely
a rail between the two areas.

> I personally enjoy being able to walk down a street and not be filmed
> by anything(save private security cameras, ATMs, that sort of thing.)

You are under the delusion of an expectation of privacy in a public
place.  Forget it.  Several cities in WA at least have surveillance cameras.

Orin.
Who, when I walked in the local pub on my 18th birthday,
the landlord said "happy birthday"...  how he knew, I don't know.
Still, this was a pub where they shuttered up the front at closing time and
had everyone 'hide' their cars then continued serving in the back rooms!