282 BHP 3B ECUs from Europe

[Jukka Majanen]

>Hey Audifans!

Hi Mihnea and all

I´ve seen a lots of discussion about MPG under
this subject, but not too much about that mod
itself. So -please, may I ask/comment something?

> I thought I could make you profit of a great deal one of my friends has had
> for the 3B ECUs...
> Actually, he has for sale 3B ECUs prepared by a reputable rally and world
> championship tuner...

I´m very interested in that. Been talking with local
chip-burners and -dealers. But I would like to
investigate all possibilities before making any deals.

> These ECUs make 282 HP with everything stock and can make a little over 310
> HP with the help of a stiffer wastegate spring (about 1.4 Bar boost)  and a
> twin-cone K&N airfilter...

KN does not make that and there is no need for
a stiffer W/G spring, as F/V acts just as ECU asks.
IMO 3B needs something else to make +280 Hp.
K-24 turbine side and E/M are very restrictive, there
will be lots of backpressure. 3B I/C is very small too...

What kind of modifications will there be, does the
guy need whole ECU for changes? How about that
oe. 200KPa pressure sensor, fooled -or a new one?

As a stock 3B´s boost is ~  0,85 at 3,5k and 0.45 at 7k,
what kind of boost curve will there be?

How does this ECU work with different set ups, I´ve
allready ordered a bigger Holset W40 Turbo and an
impulse type E/M, also bigger I/C with modified tubing.
My charging plans are ~ 1,5 at 3,5k and 1,1 at 7k (over
ATM :)

The problem can be the mid range. Stock or even many
chipped ECUs do not work well with better flowing hot
side. ECU keeps the injection too lean and ignition too
late for a good result WOT at mid area.( Audifans: How is
it with American chips TAP etc , with updated "hardware"? )

Also in my experience 3B´s one hole injectors are good
until 300-320 Hp: ( 0280 150 737 at 3,0Bar ~300ccpm )
so I´ll have ADU´s bigger four hole injectors, or similar.
( 0280 150 984 at 3,8Bar ~ 444ccpm ) I do not see any
problems here with that ECU, but got to ask.

The shipping could be easy, as I live in EU too ( Finland ).
How many Euros ( the first time I use this new currency :)
does he charge for the job?


> This is absolutely no MOTODYNE business, anyone interested in such a deal
> can contact me privately to work out an arrangement.

All other possible details could be wellcomed.

I would like to see all that info here in the list, but if Your
friend does not agree, would You please mail me jiipm at sci.fi

> Regards from Belgium,
> Mihnea

Regards and Happy New Year to all
j-pm