lowered type 44, was 4000

Larry C Leung l.leung at juno.com
Fri Jan 11 19:41:19 EST 2002


I am assuming that there must be some difference between 5Ks and 200's.
However, it does seem that one lister (Taka) can't get his 200 20V
aligned without camber plates or slotting. The only other possible
difference may be in the stiffness of the body shell, if you all recall
there was a type 44 upper front stress bar offered from a lister (can't
recall his name at the moment) which was designed not as a stiffening
device but more to control "camber creep" in type 44s. Perhaps the newer
100/200s either just haven't begun to sag yet (though I know my milage
seems to be just as high or possibly higher than a number of lister's
5Ks), or something was done with the body shell in bracing it for the
ProConTen (or whatever it's called) that has eliminated the creep. I'd be
interested to know, though I  am considering the brace anyway, just to be
sure.

LL - NY

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:45:08 -0800 "jim rose" <sf5ktq at hotmail.com>
writes:
>hold on...
>
>i dont know about the 200's, but on my 5000 with hr's (1.5" drop) and
>bilstein's i wore thru the front tires in 5 months - as in metal
>sticking
>thru the insire edge of the tire with nearly new tred on top. [DOH!]
>
>3 audi shops warned me this would happen, and the alignment shop noted
>that
>the car would not go near its correct camber setting bc of the
>lowered
>suspension. the camber is visibly riced-out.
>
>i just called 2bennett the other day and they confirmed this is
>standard
>practice with these [mines an 885k] cars. they advised the
>quicker/cheaper
>fix of slotting the top strut mounts, which i plan to do soon as i
>just put
>winter tires on it.
>
>im sure the plate is better, but i dont need it to adjust, just wear
>properly.
>
>i have heard from now 4 people with 200's that they had no camber
>issues
>when lowering. is there some adjustment difference between the 5000
>and 200?
>i did think there were minor fromt suspension differences, i guess
>that's
>part of it....
>
>unless the alignment shop was on crack.. [i live in berkeley, this is
>TOTALLY possible]
>
>jim
>-------------------
>...which is amusing, since it isn't needed on the
>type44(5000/100/200) unless you -really- lower the car.  I lowered my
>200q20v with h&rs/bilsteins and camber basically didn't change much
>at all, which mirrored the experience of at least one mechanic I
>spoke to, when I asked if such a plate was needed to maintain proper
>camber.
>
>Brett
>
>
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