More Fords....
VW FREAK
farmracer at mindspring.com
Thu Jan 17 18:20:28 EST 2002
the reason ford is discontinuing the Continental is that no-one wants a
$45,000 Taurus, cause that's all that sled is.
it seems that even the workhorse RWD cars have problems with 4th gear- my
LTD I had was threatening to go at any minute, at a miracle 175,000 miles.
Ken N
1979 Scirocco 8V 2.0 Transplant in Progress
1985 Audi 4000 S Quattro <-- 382,000 miles and still going!!!
1989 Jetta Carat GLI 8V STR-4 <--2001 NCAC STR CHAMP
1991 Kawasaki Ninja 600R
http://www.mindspring.com/~farmracer/slidehawk.htm
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> 1. Re:FAW PARTS RESPONSE (paul fernandes)
> 2. Re:Shine Racing Service, Walpole, MA... ever heard of them?
(Kwattro at aol.com)
> 3. Re:What, if any, is Audi's liability if t-belt goes before
> recommended interval? (Robert Myers)
> 4. Re:Shine Racing Service (josh Wyte)
> 5. Ben Swann new mail address. (Swann, Benjamin R. (BSWANN))
> 6. Re:dashboard clicking - solved! (Darrell Adams)
> 7. Re:[s-cars] Leather Upholstery Maintenance (Kirby Smith)
> 8. RE:[V8] RE: Bose recall (Serafin, Tom (TS - Bellwood))
> 9. Re:[V8] Ford sans 4th gear (dsaad at icehouse.net)
> 10. RE:[V8] Ford sans 4th gear (no Audi) (Coleman, David)
> 11. Re:[200q20v] Re: [V8] Ford sans 4th gear (Fundsalo Racing)
> 12. dual superchargers, dual exhaust, dual fire extinguishers...
> dual..eeeverything.... (Brett Dikeman)
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> Message: 1
> From: "paul fernandes" <paulfern2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: <curryjer at attbi.com>
> Cc: "Audifans" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: FAW PARTS RESPONSE
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:36:21 +0100
>
> Jeremiah,
> Interesting request, I will check this one out as well I made need your
help
> if all goes as planned..to get more information on this piece..
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeremiah Curry <curryjer at attbi.com>
> To: paul fernandes <paulfern2000 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Audifans <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:32 AM
> Subject: RE: FAW PARTS RESPONSE
>
>
> > I would be interested in the trim pieces surrounding the grill and
lights
> on
> > my 85 Coupe GT. Also many people would be interested in the airbox
> assembly
> > from a ur-q if they are doing a turbo transplant from a 500 to a 4000 or
> > coupe since this part has to be found or fabricated.
> >
> > Jeremiah Curry
> >
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: Kwattro at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:49:16 EST
> Subject: Re: Shine Racing Service, Walpole, MA... ever heard of them?
> To: audi_92_100cs at yahoo.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
> In a message dated 02-01-17 14:18:45 EST, you write:
>
> << 'm going to stop over there this afternoon to talk Audi's and set up
> an appointment for some simple maintenance work. This will be GREAT if
> this is a knowledgeable shop; the owner certainly sounded enthusiastic
> about the brand. I can walk to this place, ferchrissakes!
>
> = >>
>
> They do the suspension cornerweighting for my father's race car.
Extensive
> VW racing history, I know they've been thrown out of SCCA a few times for
> cheating. That makes me a little weary, honestly, but otherwise they're
> supposed to know their stuff. For a while they had a Rabbit capable of 1
> minute laps at Limerock, not sure if it's still there. That's roughly 7
> secs. a lap faster than my GT right now, which isn't just sitting around,
I
> assure you.
>
> Later!
> Carter
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:49:08 -0500
> To: <rowe at yankeeprinter.com>, <quattro at audifans.com>
> From: Robert Myers <robert at s-cars.org>
> Subject: Re: What, if any, is Audi's liability if t-belt goes before
> recommended interval?
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> At 11:49 AM 1/17/02, Bill Rowe wrote:
>
> >I don't have it in front of me, but I believe the owner's/maintenance
> >manual for my 98 A6 Avant recommends a 90k replacement interval for the
> >t-belt. If it goes before that would I have some recourse?
>
> If the car is still under warranty (like the TB fails at 40K miles or
so) -
> yes. If it is out of warranty your recourse is your checkbook or credit
card.
>
>
> Bob
> *****
> Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372
> Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP
> '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244
> http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:18:08 -0800 (PST)
> From: josh Wyte <josh_wyte at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Shine Racing Service
> To: audi_92_100cs at yahoo.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
>
> I've been doing business with these guys for over 5
> years now. I've been very impressed with them.
> They're very pleasant and stand behind their work
> 100%. They set up alot of race cars for IT and work
> on most german cars.
>
> They have strong opinions on what works and what
> doesn't...
>
> Their phone number is 508-660-7974
>
> -josh
>
> =====
> Josh Wyte
> Momentum Motorsports
> 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST
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> Message: 5
> From: "Swann, Benjamin R. (BSWANN)" <BSWANN at arinc.com>
> To: "'quattro at audifans.com'" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Cc: "'bswann at worldnet.att.net'" <bswann at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Ben Swann new mail address.
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:34:05 -0500
>
>
> Quattrophile,
>
> My email address is changing to
>
> bswann at worldnet.att.net
>
> I will no longer be reachable at bswann at arinc.com
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: dashboard clicking - solved!
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> From: "Darrell Adams" <adamsdr at us.ibm.com>
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:03:05 -0700
>
>
> Thank you very much for those of you who responded to the mystery clicking
> on the left of my dash, turns out it's the drivers side seat heater is the
> main problem, I'll be looking for bad connections and/or replacing the
> relay.
>
> thanks again!
>
> '80 Scirocco - giving away.
> '90 Corrado - scary fast (down for repairs)
> '89 90Q - pure touring pleasure (and lots of clicking)
>
> Darrell Adams
> SAP Infrastructure Support
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:45:46 -0500
> From: Kirby Smith <kirby.a.smith at verizon.net>
> Reply-To: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net
> To: t44tq at mindspring.com
> CC: Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>,
> S-Car-List <s-car-list at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Leather Upholstery Maintenance
>
> I think you will need some heat to get effective absorption. I suppose
> you could warm up the interior until you couldn't stand it. :)
>
> I don't recall Hide Food being hopelessly obnoxious. But leather and
> lanolin will smell like leather. I use Horseman's One Step from my
> nearest feed store pending getting some more Hide Food.
>
> kirby
>
> t44tq at mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> > Kirby-
> > If lanolin is the key ingredient, wouldn't Lexol conditioner have
> > that as well? I know (for some reason I remember this) that Eagle
> > One leather conditioner has lanolin in it, at least the formula
> > from about 3 years back does.
> >
> > I've been told on several occasions that Connolly Hide Food is really
nas=
> ty, smelly stuff- I'd rather not use something that nasty and smelly if it
=
> can be avoided. Also, with the cold weather here, I don't think anything
th=
> at requires heat and soak-in time will work (at least not until I get a
hea=
> ted garage).
> >
> > Taka
> >
> > To unsubscribe, email: s-car-list-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> Message: 8
> From: "Serafin, Tom (TS - Bellwood)" <TSerafin at ats.bwauto.com>
> To: "'Ed Kellock'" <ekellock at nxtrend.com>, v8 at audifans.com,
> quattro at audifans.com, "'200q20v at audifans.com'"
<200q20v at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: [V8] RE: Bose recall
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:58:20 -0600
>
> The vast majority of us are middle aged white males. Do you think any
media
> outlet would consider this a story when they can get semi-attractive
soccer
> moms to cry on TV? Throw kids into it and you've got a Lifetime movie on
> your hands.
>
> Life is too short to worry about this. Fix your car and drive it!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Kellock [SMTP:ekellock at nxtrend.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:59 AM
> > To: v8 at audifans.com; quattro at audifans.com; '200q20v at audifans.com'
> > Subject: [V8] RE: Bose recall
> >
> > Watched ABC this morning. They had a piece on about Chrysler
> > minivans. An actual owner who was leaning down to inspect
> > the puddle of gas that had collected under it was interviewed.
> > The van/gas chose that moment to ignite. He ended up twenty
> > feet away on fire.
> >
> > Chrysler has drug their feet since fall 2000. They're just now going
> > to issue a recall "in a matter of weeks". This with only 25 known
> > fires and 135 known cases of leaks. Those are pretty darn small
> > numbers, but this is a very serious scenario.
> >
> > All this with a line of minivans of which there seems to be
> > millions on the road and the main purpose of which is to
> > carry multiple people, usually children (arguably), which in
> > effect subjects two to three times as many people to this danger.
> >
> > I wonder if we could get some similar exposure? Anyone know
> > anybody at ABC? Their bleeding hearts would likely gush at
> > another story of vehicle fires.
> >
> > But if Chrysler can avoid the radar for so long, do we have any
> > chance of ever seeing any pressure exerted on Audi?
> >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "John Dodd" <john.dodd at sait.ab.ca>
> > > >To: <v8 at audifans.com>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:54 PM
> > > >Subject: [V8] recall
> > > >
> > > >> Just a reminder that Audi has issued a recall for the
> > > >> 100,200,v8 regarding possible fires in the rear speakers(?)
> > > >> John
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> Message: 9
> From: dsaad at icehouse.net
> To: "Michael L. Riebs" <michael at 1stchoicegranite.com>
> Subject: Re: [V8] Ford sans 4th gear
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:50:38 -0800
> Cc: <duane at zk3.dec.com>, "Buchholz, Steven"
<Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>,
> <v8 at audifans.com>, Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>,
> <200q20v at audifans.com>
>
> Apparently, my '93 explorer did better than average when the transmission
> lasted all the way to 100k miles. $2k later it is as good as new.
> While overall this has been a very reliable car, and this has been the
only
> real expense, it still irritates me that it could have been a great rig if
ford
> would have only made minor and cheap changes. eg:
>
> - put on actual shocks that last more than one trip down the driveway
> - design and layout so that all normal maintenance items can be reached
without
> removing the engine
> - use electrical connectors that do not break when you remove them
> - spend some time refining the engine control software
>
> none of these items would have changed the cost of building the car, but
it
> would make ownership much more satisfying.
>
> Since I do almost all the repairs on my cars, I really appriceate how
things
> are laid out on the V8. I can't say that about the explorer.
>
> Dave
>
>
> Quoting "Michael L. Riebs" <michael at 1stchoicegranite.com>:
>
> > Wait....
> > You are already Audi owners, right???
> > Well, you should have known better than to buy American cheapo's then.
> > Or
> > Japanese rice boilers. There's such a thing as "planned obsoletion",
> > which
> > is what keeps Americans replacing their stuff every 2 - 5 years. If you
> > want
> > a quality, long-lasting product - buy German or Swedish (of course
> > that's
> > American too, now...)
> >
> > Michael Riebs
> > Grand Rapids, MI
> > '90 V8Q (#7)
> > '98 A6Q Avant (#6)
> > Only 6 & 7 remain.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Duane USG" <duane at hunch.zk3.dec.com>
> > To: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
> > Cc: <v8 at audifans.com>; "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>;
> > <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [V8] RE: Bose recall
> >
> >
> > > Hairy green toads from Mars made Buchholz, Steven say:
> > >
> > > > It seems like the government is already in the process of working
> > out a
> > > > recall with Audi. I really wonder how many people here have shared
> > their
> > > > concerns with the NHTSA using the standard reporting method. I
> > suspect
> > very
> > > > few folks here actually have ... and if that is the case, who else
> > cares
> > > > about fixing a problem on an old Audi?
> > >
> > > Well, don't hold your breath.
> > >
> > > Recently, we bought a car for our daughter, who is 16.5, and just
> > > getting her license. Actually, she made her first solo drive
> > > yesterday!
> > >
> > > Anyway, based on the fact that it got good safety ratings, and is
> > > about the most sold car in the world, we bought a recent Ford Taurus.
> > > They've sold 25 million of these, they have to be decent, right???
> > >
> > > Well, it turns out that since 1992, the automatic trannies Ford
> > > and Mercury has been putting into these cars and others like them
> > > have suffered a 20% mortality rate! There is a TSB about them
> > > losing 4th gear. Just disappears due to an internal fault that
> > > Ford has known about for 8 years!
> > >
> > > Recall? Hardly! Help with the repair? Must be dreaming!
> > >
> > > $2100 for a new tranny in a 5 year old car :-(
> > >
> > > So, we're pursuing the last remedy we have, a class action lawsuit.
> > >
> > > Sorry, it's in the shop today getting the new tranny, and I had to
> > vent.
> > > This is the first Ford we've ever bought. Count on it being the last.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) duane at zk3.dec.com
> > > Compaq Computer Corporation (603)-884-1294
> > > 110 Spit Brook Road
> > > M/S ZKO3-3/U14
> > > Nashua, NH 03062-2698
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Subject: RE: [V8] Ford sans 4th gear (no Audi)
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:43:06 -0500
> From: "Coleman, David" <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> To: <dsaad at icehouse.net>, "Michael L. Riebs"
<michael at 1stchoicegranite.com>
> Cc: <duane at zk3.dec.com>, "Buchholz, Steven"
<Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>,
> <v8 at audifans.com>, "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>,
> <200q20v at audifans.com>
>
> I realize this is not a Ford list... but it's topical.
>
> My '92 Aerostar 3.0 4x2 tow vehicle w/ 95k has been oddly reliable as
> well... the best shocks and michelins Sears has to offer, along w/ a
> serp belt, was the only fix/upgrades I've done since 60k. Just
> yesterday the trans started slipping badly (about the time the Taurus
> trans post came up), but it ended up that a hose popped off the
> aftermarket trans cooler I installed 3 years ago. Tightened all clamps,
> filled up w/ synth atf, and it's shifting better than ever. Of course,
> Dave's 100k Explorer trans has me nervous again.
>
> The end point being that I am seriously considering trading it in on
> another Furd van/suv thing. Since I primarily direct my auto
> maintenance attention to the Audi, I tend to neglect the workhorse
> somewhat. Odd folks, those Ford gods.
>
> -dc
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dsaad at icehouse.net [mailto:dsaad at icehouse.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:51 AM
> > To: Michael L. Riebs
> > Cc: duane at zk3.dec.com; Buchholz, Steven; v8 at audifans.com;
> > Quattro List;
> > 200q20v at audifans.com
> > Subject: Re: [V8] Ford sans 4th gear
> >
> >
> > Apparently, my '93 explorer did better than average when the
> > transmission
> > lasted all the way to 100k miles. $2k later it is as good as new.
> > While overall this has been a very reliable car, and this has
> > been the only
> > real expense, it still irritates me that it could have been a
> > great rig if ford
> > would have only made minor and cheap changes. eg:
> >
> > - put on actual shocks that last more than one trip down the driveway
> > - design and layout so that all normal maintenance items can
> > be reached without
> > removing the engine
> > - use electrical connectors that do not break when you remove them
> > - spend some time refining the engine control software
> >
> > none of these items would have changed the cost of building
> > the car, but it
> > would make ownership much more satisfying.
> >
> > Since I do almost all the repairs on my cars, I really
> > appriceate how things
> > are laid out on the V8. I can't say that about the explorer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Quoting "Michael L. Riebs" <michael at 1stchoicegranite.com>:
> >
> > > Wait....
> > > You are already Audi owners, right???
> > > Well, you should have known better than to buy American
> > cheapo's then.
> > > Or
> > > Japanese rice boilers. There's such a thing as "planned obsoletion",
> > > which
> > > is what keeps Americans replacing their stuff every 2 - 5
> > years. If you
> > > want
> > > a quality, long-lasting product - buy German or Swedish (of course
> > > that's
> > > American too, now...)
> > >
> > > Michael Riebs
> > > Grand Rapids, MI
> > > '90 V8Q (#7)
> > > '98 A6Q Avant (#6)
> > > Only 6 & 7 remain.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Andrew Duane USG" <duane at hunch.zk3.dec.com>
> > > To: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
> > > Cc: <v8 at audifans.com>; "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>;
> > > <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [V8] RE: Bose recall
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hairy green toads from Mars made Buchholz, Steven say:
> > > >
> > > > > It seems like the government is already in the process
> > of working
> > > out a
> > > > > recall with Audi. I really wonder how many people here
> > have shared
> > > their
> > > > > concerns with the NHTSA using the standard reporting method. I
> > > suspect
> > > very
> > > > > few folks here actually have ... and if that is the
> > case, who else
> > > cares
> > > > > about fixing a problem on an old Audi?
> > > >
> > > > Well, don't hold your breath.
> > > >
> > > > Recently, we bought a car for our daughter, who is 16.5, and just
> > > > getting her license. Actually, she made her first solo drive
> > > > yesterday!
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, based on the fact that it got good safety ratings, and is
> > > > about the most sold car in the world, we bought a recent
> > Ford Taurus.
> > > > They've sold 25 million of these, they have to be decent, right???
> > > >
> > > > Well, it turns out that since 1992, the automatic trannies Ford
> > > > and Mercury has been putting into these cars and others like them
> > > > have suffered a 20% mortality rate! There is a TSB about them
> > > > losing 4th gear. Just disappears due to an internal fault that
> > > > Ford has known about for 8 years!
> > > >
> > > > Recall? Hardly! Help with the repair? Must be dreaming!
> > > >
> > > > $2100 for a new tranny in a 5 year old car :-(
> > > >
> > > > So, we're pursuing the last remedy we have, a class
> > action lawsuit.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, it's in the shop today getting the new tranny, and I had to
> > > vent.
> > > > This is the first Ford we've ever bought. Count on it
> > being the last.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) duane at zk3.dec.com
> > > > Compaq Computer Corporation (603)-884-1294
> > > > 110 Spit Brook Road
> > > > M/S ZKO3-3/U14
> > > > Nashua, NH 03062-2698
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:48:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: Fundsalo Racing <fundsaloracing at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [200q20v] Re: [V8] Ford sans 4th gear
> To: dsaad at icehouse.net,
> "Michael L. Riebs" <michael at 1stchoicegranite.com>
> Cc: duane at zk3.dec.com,
> "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>, v8 at audifans.com,
> Quattro List <quattro at audifans.com>, 200q20v at audifans.com
>
>
> ...makes one wonder why ford is discontinuing a number
> of long-standing lines including the historically
> signifigant Lincoln Continental line...
>
> Qualiy IS Job 1 - Right?
>
> --- dsaad at icehouse.net wrote:
> > Apparently, my '93 explorer did better than average
> > when the transmission
> > lasted all the way to 100k miles. $2k later it is as
> > good as new.
> > While overall this has been a very reliable car, and
> > this has been the only
> > real expense, it still irritates me that it could
> > have been a great rig if ford
> > would have only made minor and cheap changes. eg:
> >
> > - put on actual shocks that last more than one trip
> > down the driveway
> > - design and layout so that all normal maintenance
> > items can be reached without
> > removing the engine
> > - use electrical connectors that do not break when
> > you remove them
> > - spend some time refining the engine control
> > software
> >
> > none of these items would have changed the cost of
> > building the car, but it
> > would make ownership much more satisfying.
> >
> > Since I do almost all the repairs on my cars, I
> > really appriceate how things
> > are laid out on the V8. I can't say that about the
> > explorer.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > Quoting "Michael L. Riebs"
> > <michael at 1stchoicegranite.com>:
> >
> > > Wait....
> > > You are already Audi owners, right???
> > > Well, you should have known better than to buy
> > American cheapo's then.
> > > Or
> > > Japanese rice boilers. There's such a thing as
> > "planned obsoletion",
> > > which
> > > is what keeps Americans replacing their stuff
> > every 2 - 5 years. If you
> > > want
> > > a quality, long-lasting product - buy German or
> > Swedish (of course
> > > that's
> > > American too, now...)
> > >
> > > Michael Riebs
> > > Grand Rapids, MI
> > > '90 V8Q (#7)
> > > '98 A6Q Avant (#6)
> > > Only 6 & 7 remain.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Andrew Duane USG" <duane at hunch.zk3.dec.com>
> > > To: "Buchholz, Steven"
> > <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
> > > Cc: <v8 at audifans.com>; "Quattro List"
> > <quattro at audifans.com>;
> > > <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [V8] RE: Bose recall
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hairy green toads from Mars made Buchholz,
> > Steven say:
> > > >
> > > > > It seems like the government is already in the
> > process of working
> > > out a
> > > > > recall with Audi. I really wonder how many
> > people here have shared
> > > their
> > > > > concerns with the NHTSA using the standard
> > reporting method. I
> > > suspect
> > > very
> > > > > few folks here actually have ... and if that
> > is the case, who else
> > > cares
> > > > > about fixing a problem on an old Audi?
> > > >
> > > > Well, don't hold your breath.
> > > >
> > > > Recently, we bought a car for our daughter, who
> > is 16.5, and just
> > > > getting her license. Actually, she made her
> > first solo drive
> > > > yesterday!
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, based on the fact that it got good
> > safety ratings, and is
> > > > about the most sold car in the world, we bought
> > a recent Ford Taurus.
> > > > They've sold 25 million of these, they have to
> > be decent, right???
> > > >
> > > > Well, it turns out that since 1992, the
> > automatic trannies Ford
> > > > and Mercury has been putting into these cars and
> > others like them
> > > > have suffered a 20% mortality rate! There is a
> > TSB about them
> > > > losing 4th gear. Just disappears due to an
> > internal fault that
> > > > Ford has known about for 8 years!
> > > >
> > > > Recall? Hardly! Help with the repair? Must be
> > dreaming!
> > > >
> > > > $2100 for a new tranny in a 5 year old car :-(
> > > >
> > > > So, we're pursuing the last remedy we have, a
> > class action lawsuit.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, it's in the shop today getting the new
> > tranny, and I had to
> > > vent.
> > > > This is the first Ford we've ever bought. Count
> > on it being the last.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) duane at zk3.dec.com
> > > > Compaq Computer Corporation (603)-884-1294
> > > > 110 Spit Brook Road
> > > > M/S ZKO3-3/U14
> > > > Nashua, NH 03062-2698
> > > >
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> -glen
>
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>
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misconceptions or naive hope about what to expect from the British. "Powder
and artillery are the most efficacious, sure and infallible conciliatory
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:06:01 -0500
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> From: Brett Dikeman <brett at cloud9.net>
> Subject: dual superchargers, dual exhaust, dual fire extinguishers...
> dual..eeeverything....
> Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
>
> Yes, that's right, Audifans.com has added a little somethin'
> somethin' under the hood now, if you hadn't noticed. Running the
> latest+greatest in mail transfer agents(www.postfix.org) we're now
> averaging about 2-5 minutes for email to get to the entire list, near
> as I can tell.
>
> Now how 'bout -them- apples?
>
> I'm hoping that one of the side effects of this super-duper delivery
> speed will be reduced multiple duplicate replies people get because
> nobody sees that someone has already responded etc....
>
> oh, and btw, we had a couple of problems today where mail bounced
> because things were not set up exactly right. This may continue as
> we tweak things a little more, just wait a bit and send your message
> again(ONLY send it again if you get an error message back.)
>
>
> Brett
> Audifans Admin Team(Official motto:"Let's break one thing at a time")
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