[V8] Re: headliner repair

[j fizz]

allan,

thanx for the nice writeup. this has been getting more and more on my nerves
in the 90.

question - could you not just leave the cardboard backing in the car, and
glue the new material to it? and not have to remove the cardboard headliner?

or do you have to remove it for some reason in order to glue the new
material to it?

thanx,
jim


>From: "allan vega" <allanvega at snet.net>
>To: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>, <skramer at mac.com>, <v8 at audifans.com>,
>  <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: Re: [V8] Re: headliner repair
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:27:50 -0400
>
>I just did this Saterday on my 89 200q. Wasn't that bad. total cost in
>parts
>was$25 dollars for the headliner material and six bucks for the headliner
>glue at pep-boys. The headliners in these cars are glued to a molded piece
>of cardboard which is glued to the steel roof of the car. To remove the
>headliner you will first need to remove the obvious  stuff like the
>a-pillar, b-pillar, and c-pillar trim as well as the sunvser and sunroof
>cover . You will; also need to remove the sunroof motor and the securing
>screws for the sunroof assembly..( there is a trim ring that must be
>removed
>in order to get the  headliner out and it located partly under the tracks
>of
>the sun roof. )  Once all that stuff is removed you will need a razor knife
>to cut two pieces of foam that is sandwiched between the cardboard an steel
>roof in the sunviser area. The hard part come when you get to the section
>behind the sunroof. Audi used a large blob of glue/epoxy who knows what.
>When I removed my headliner, I could not avoid leaving a layer of the
>cardboard behind. Be very careful here..the method that worked best for me
>was to get hands in-between and pull gently with open palms and work the
>headliner out that way. Now, If you make it to the point where you have the
>headliner out of the care  and its not destroyed the rest will be cake. The
>method for removing the orange foam that coats your whole car ( this is
>what
>prompted me to do a headliner on this car) is to simply rub your hands and
>the glue/foam bill ball up and fall off. Once glue/foam is removed, spray
>cardboard down with the headliner glue ( the farther away you hold in the
>better)  place new headliner on top after a few minutes, trim and install
>in
>reveres order. Allan
>86 5000tq (parts car now)
>88 80q
>89 200tq
>90 v8q ----- Original Message -----
>From: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>
>To: <skramer at mac.com>; <v8 at audifans.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 12:50 PM
>Subject: [V8] Re: headliner question..
>
>
> > i sort of figured - i looked thru the bentley process and it sounds like
> > major surgery.
> >
> > i really like the warnings about the adhesive, and not burning the paint
>on
> > the roof =)
> >
> >
> > >From: "Steve Kramer" <skramer at mac.com>
> > >To: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>, <v8 at audifans.com>,
> > ><quattro at audifans.com>
> > >Subject: Re: headliner question..
> > >Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:40:02 -0500
> > >
> > >Funny, you bring this up.  Mine is starting to sag. An aoutomotive
> > >interiors
> > >place says the only way to fix this is to replace it.   $275 to
>re-apolster
> > >(sp) the whole interior ceiling minus the sun roof and the visors.
>Doesn't
> > >sound too bad to me.  They said it will take them a whole day to do the
> > >job.
> > >
> > >I guess what happens is there is a foam backing on the fabric that is
>glued
> > >to the particle board.  The fabricx delaminates from this.  According
>to
> > >this installer, re-gluing doesn't work as it only lasts temporarily.
> > >
> > >he told me the only temorary fix are thumb tacks.    Anyone know of
>some
> > >decorative Audi emblem thumb tacks :-)
> > >
> > >Steve Kramer
> > >1990 V8q
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:16 PM
> > >Subject: headliner question..
> > >
> > >
> > > > whats the [is there a] best way to save/repair a sagging headliner?
>the
> > > > bentley procedure sounds like major surgery. and i can only guess
>what
> > >the
> > > > dealer charges for one.
> > > >
> > > > any btdt?
> > > >
> > > > THANX!!!
> > > >
> > > > -jim
> > > >
> > > > '88 90
> > > >
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