stereo woes

Wed Jun 26 10:51:20 EDT 2002

I agree on the Kenwood Excelon. The reason why I
didn't recommend the line is because, as of
late, they've gone the Sony route, as far as the
display and buttons go. The Excelon line is very
good.

I forgot about Clarion. They're good. They're
one of the few companies that puts the money
that would normally be spent on dumb features
and goofy displays into the performance of the
unit.
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From: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 00:38:17 +0000
To: scott at dreamtheater.zzn.com
CC: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Re: re: stereo woes

sounds good..

ive used kenwood exelon [better warranty] for
the past few years and been
very happy. the goofy flipface [4 years old] has
NEVER hiccupped once.

which i could say the same for the rest of the
car..

DOH!

>From: "scott thomas"
<scott at dreamtheater.zzn.com>
>To: iin10ded at hotmail.com
>CC: quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: re: stereo woes
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 20:14:21 -0700
>
>As far as decks go, Eclipse is very nice, but
>will cost you and be somewhat short on features,
>but the line outputs are high voltage in most
>models. They make equipment that sounds good.
>Alpine is what I use, with excellent results. I
>have Rockfords, pulled from my 5ktq (5 1/4")
>stuffed into the 4" front Bose modules and
>Pioneer Premier 6x9's in the rear. Using the
>head unit's amp.
>
>Stay away from Sony. Goofy and unreliable.
>Pioneer is ok, Premier better. Blaupunkt is ok
>and simple.
>
>Good luck!
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>From: "j fizz" <iin10ded at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 22:52:25 +0000
>To: bkaupp at ugconnection.com
>CC: quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: re: stereo woes
>
>
>ben,
>hey there.. bored at work and saw the post,
>so....
>
><<So the questions: 1. Is it possible to put
>5.25" mids anywhere in the
>front?>>
>
>yes, do some sort of a door or kickpanel
>buildout to mount a set of 5"
>separates to. i like the doors bc they tend to
>take less of a beating.
>closer to the footwell = better [you want to try
>to equalise the pathlegnth
>  from the l+r speakers to your head - ideally]
>this can be as simple a a
>thick- at ss piece of wood covered to look nice, to
>give you the mounting depth
>needed for the magnet to clear the door's guts.
>if the door is relatively
>flat and fetaure-free, this works like a champ.
>in contoured doors [my
>memory of the 4000 door is fuzzy], things get a
>bit trickier. the same rule
>still applies, but you may have to get more
>creative in the use of
>marterials. its best to try to seal the airspace
>of the driver, but its not
>always possible, and usually very difficult, and
>most of us have other
>hobbies.
>
>if you cant work out the door speaker, get a
>nice 4" separate set for the
>dash and keep reading...
>
><<2. What about 6x9" in the rear shelf? 3. How
>do you get those front
>speaker grills off? 4. >>
>
>i dont know how to get the grills off.. pull em.
>
>6X9's suck, plain and simple. this is of course
>my opiniion. its just a big
>goofy thing stuffed in the rear deck of every
>lowered '78 cutlass on earth
>[even sweeter if you stuff 2 pair back
>there! ;]. better to use a high
>quality coax [boston acoustics, ads, etc..] and
>spare the stock look [im
>assuming its a 5 inch round or so..]
>the biggest improvement will come from
>aftermarklet amps with electronic
>crosssovers and a dedicated sub in the trunk.
>running the front and rear
>speakers through an electronic  highpass filter
>makes a HUGE difference in
>the sound quality, lifespan and mamimum output
>of the in-car drivers [when
>they dont try to play bass, which theyre not
>very good at, theyre a lot
>happier]. it doesnt have to be much.. 30 or 40
>decent watts per channel will
>ROCK over any headunit on earth [anyone who
>tells you different needs a
>drain-o flavored qtip]. throw a couple hundred
>watts to a single 12 in a
>small sealed box and youll be in car stereo
>heaven. if you want to play it
>really loud, dont. cuz you dont wanna be "that
>guy".
>
>if you have 6x9 openings, then cut a baffle in
>the 6x9 shape and mount good
>separates to it and screw the whole thing into
>place. all the car audio
>nerds will think you're "high end".
>
><<Has anybody had any experience with Nakamichi
>decks, or have any other
>recommendations for a deck that doesn't just
>scream Honda (read AMBER
>ILLUMIATION)>>
>
>not so hot on features, and usually low output
>voltage, but some of the best
>sounding decks ive heard.  the 6 disc single din
>in dash changer ROCKS. you
>would have to have a pretty nice rig to justify
>the sonic differences of a
>nak.
>
>have fun..
>jim
>
>
>
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