[s-cars] RS6 vs M5

[JShadzi at aol.com]

Ha, I hope you're being sarcastic.  Check out www.80tq.com to see what I'm talking about, I commute 65 miles a day with this car, and drive it at the track on weekends.

You haven't been in any Audi focus groups lately..have you??   ;)

Javad

In a message dated Thu, 27 Jun 2002 10:49:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Gatlan Dan D" <GatlanDanD at JohnDeere.com> writes:

>And what you going to do with a car like this here ????
>Dan
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: JShadzi at aol.com [mailto:JShadzi at aol.com]
>Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:22 AM
>To: malth at umich.edu; QSHIPQ at aol.com
>Cc: flhuillier at siebel.com; fjamoroso at webtv.net; t44tq at mindspring.com;
>UrS492 at aol.com; s-car-list at audifans.com; quattro at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] RS6 vs M5
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>It has nothing to do with handling power, its marketing, those of us who
>like shifting a car, who appreciate the extra control and contact it gives
>you in a car, are no longer the target market.  Its sad really, Audi is
>increasingly building cars for drivers who don't appreciate driving a car.
>Audi's answer to better handling now is adding a few hundered lbs of
>electornics and hydraulics to control suspension movement, etc.
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>Here is what I propose for the next S-car:
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>-A4 chassis, light weight, reduce interior weight by removing power features
>and using lighter materials and less sound dampening (hell, the Supra used
>hollow fibers in the carpet to reduce weight), climate control and stereo
>optional.
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>-V6tt using K04 or bigger turbos, output 350-400hp.
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>-2.0 20v 4 cylinder with MUCH larger turbo, say on the big T3 side, output
>275hp, redline 8k RPM.
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>-6 speed tranny, quattro..of course
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>-Stiff suspension, and I mean stiffer, the current S4tt stock suspension is
>way too cush, give me Porsche 996 or E36 M3 stiff, low body roll, fast
>reaction.  Fast ratio steering rack, more on center and road feel.
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>-Price it around $25-28k for the 2.0 or $30-35k for the V6.
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>I'd take that over an RS6 anyday, screw what an M5 can or can't do.
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>Javad
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>>What I don't understand, is why they can't put a manual transmission in
>>the car.  Audi had 500hp+ rally cars in the early 80s, with sticks, and
>>now 20+ years later they can't figure out how to make a manual
>>transmission strong enough for the RS6?  I don't believe it.  I think
>>they're just going for luxo-Mercedes-dom ala E55 (though I've heard that
>>actually outhandles the M5, and is much lighter, except it lacks a
>>stick), and not sport-BMW-dom.
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>>Cov
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