> I do not know what your headliner material is. Velcro pulled the cloth > headliner material down when I used velcro to support the visor in my 1989 > 200q Avant. YMMV. the type 85 uses a more solid headliner (maybe vinyl) that isn't prone to sagging. should hold the weight of a sun visor w/lcd without much trouble. Later -Marc- 87 4ktq 88 90q