FW: 200 Major Starter woe: MORE INFO
james accordino
ssgacc at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 9 17:10:33 EDT 2002
Is it possible that the starter gear is jammed against
the flywheel gear? Maybe the starter is cocked
slightly? Just guessing, but SOMETHING is obviously
jamming your crankshaft.
Jim Accordino
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> Okay gang update:
> Took torque wrench and big 27MM socket at tried to
> turn over the crank bolt
> by hand.
> No go - up to 85 ft lbs.
> Tried 86 4000Q w/400K and it turned over
> easy....tooo easy.........
> I'm bummed. either hydro lock (why?) or timingbelt
> (one year ago) /
> flywheel issue.
>
> All this from just trying to change the alt!
> WTF.
>
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> In a message dated 9/5/02 10:04:05 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time, SuffolkD
> writes:
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> Snipped for bandwith. Check archives:
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> 200 Starter: SYMPTOMS
> Drove Avant onto two car ramps, Alt had failed -
> blocked the rear wheels.
> Changed the starter after the alternator. Replaced
> all the wires
> correctly.
> Reconnect battery and turn key: click click click.
> voltmeter shows 10.2V
> (at starter connection with ground at oil pan.)
> Use suspect battery charger on "engine start"
> (dash volmeter spiked to
> 16V)
> and click click click much
> faster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Or is something telling me putting the car in gear
> to keep it from rolling
> off the ramps broke somethiing inside?
>
>
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> To: <200q20v at audifans.com>,
> <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: Re: Major Starter woe:
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:04:05 -0400
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> 200 Starter: SYMPTOMS
> Drove Avant onto two car ramps, Alt had failed -
> blocked the rear wheels.
> Changed the starter after the alternator. Replaced
> all the wires correctly.
> Reconnect battery and turn key: click click click.
> voltmeter shows 10.2V (at
> starter connection with ground at oil pan.)
> Use suspect battery charger on "engine start" (dash
> volmeter spiked to 16V)
> and click click click much
> faster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Replace battery with NEW. ~12.6V at starter, turn
> key -solid CLICK.
> Take 13 month (one month DAMN! outta warranty) old
> Bosch starter to FLAPS.
> Test it AND a Force Five $40 used starter both GOOD
> no deadspots. Pinion
> gear
> jumps out and spins on test beach. HMMMMMMM>
> Reinstall known "tested" good 13 month old Bosch.
> Replace suspect wires
> with
> solder and new wire. (Alt to starter) and Starter
> solinoid thin spade plug
> wire.
> Turn key in dash : CLICK
> Jury rig wires for NEW Starter solinoid thin spade
> plug wire to extra lead I
> installed from Alt so I could lay on back in parking
> lot and "jump start"
> the
> car by holding two wires together to engage starter.
> BIG CLICK - nothing -
> (except rust falling down on my head.) same one
> solid CLICK as
> before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Disassemble, reassemble correctly to factory
> as-built it and rolled in off
> ramps out of garage. Three week process between
> vacation and driving 25
> miles to work one hour then go home.
> I AM EXTREMELY HUMBLED BY THIS:
> I suspect that something binding or preventing the
> flywheel from rotating
> the
> engine.
> Totally stumped. On my way to Ritzel, MA to have
> car worked on by Audi tech
> champion.
>
> Can I roll car down big hill after towing it there?
> And let out the clutch
> (in second of course) to run it?
> Or is something telling me putting the car in gear
> to keep it from rolling
> off the ramps broke somethiing inside?
>
> -Scott in BOSTON HELP PLEASE ! SuffolkD at aol.com
> ps. Wire ends dipped in baking soda to clean
> corrosion. then filed to
> shiney
> copper surface. Every connection is new or super
> clean. (as I feel evident
> by the SOLID CLICKS) Chris at Force five said check
> ground strap. It looks
> clean and has only a light hint of FAINT green
> corrosion. Fired this with
> contact cleaner and then liquid wrench. Ground
> super tough to get at. Left
> alone not to introduce another variable.
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