RE. Help - Brake complicated problem

[Ben Swann]

Ceci,

I burns me to hear this.  I think you got ripped off.  Period.

The car simply needed a new master cylinder and a brake system bleed.  At
least that has been my experience with 3 out of 4 of these Type 44 cars I
have owned/fixed up and serviced in 3 years.  This is a very common problem
with these cars.

I don't know what recourse you have, but this shop did service that the car
didn't need, and didn't address the real problem.

Too bad you didn't query this list first.

Ben

[Hello guys
Got a '89 200 Turbo and when I'm driving about 30 to 50 miles I got this
problem: My steering wheel begins shaking badly, at the same time brake
pedal gets stiff, later pedal begins to go to floor and at the end you have
no brakes, the car starts braking itself. You let it getI took it to a shop
(an expensive import service) and got out with a $1400 bill, a new brake
accumulator,hoses and pentosin (according to them it was a leaking
problem),
but I never saw any loss of fluid not even when the car had no brakes. I
pay, take the car out of the shop and I got exactly the same problem 30
miles after. The guy in the shop says that the solution now must be that
the
front calipers are sticking ,the brake fluid boils and that the car needs
both front calipers (girling, double piston). I check other shop and the
guy
says there may be the calipers but that he's never heard of the two
calipers
going wrong at the same time, and that the stiff pedal story does not match
with a caliper failure. He suspects a brake master cylinder instead.
Sorry for writing such long mail but I'd appreciate if anyone has ever
heard
of something like this before.
Ceci Cerdan
Kentucky]