[urq] Ur-quattro rear subframe bushes

[Livolsi, Stephane]

FWIW, My experience relates to the front subframe bushings on an 86
5ktq.  After reading write ups in the archives, I was quite
apprehensive, but turns out it was no big deal.

I used a variety of tools to get the old bushings out (dremel, jig saw)
and that wasn't too difficult.  

To get the new ones in, I simply put a very big washer on one side of
the subframe bushing hole, put a long bolt through the washer, put the
bushing against the other end of the hole, another big washer and a nut.
A wrench on the bolt, another on the nut and twist away. It sucks the
bushing right in.  No press needed.  I did use liquid dish soap to lube
the bushings up a bit, to minimize distortion.

Now that I think about it, you could probably do the same to get the
bushings out, using a very large socket on 1 side and you would pull the
bushing into the socket.

Stephane

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ameer Antar [mailto:antar at comcast.net] 
> Sent: December 4, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: Phil Payne; urq at audifans.com; quattro at audifans.com
> Cc: Brandon Rogers
> Subject: Re: [urq] Ur-quattro rear subframe bushes
> 
> 
> I just did all 4 subframe bushings on my 5kT w/ the help of a 
> friend at a local machine shop. I haven't seen a Ur-Q, but I 
> suspect they are very similar to my subframe bushings, b/c we 
> also were considering using a compressor (hose clamp in our 
> case) to hold the bulge at the bottom of the bushing. We bent 
> the first front bushing trying to press it in just like the 
> rear ones. The rear ones were simple to press in by pressing 
> on the outer edge of the bushing. The front ones are totally 
> different. We finally got the remaining front bushing in by 
> pressing on the center of the bushing only. That stretches 
> the bushing and eliminates the bulge, so it eventually just 
> pops in. The stretching will destroy the rear bushings, so 
> that's why we tried the same thing on the front. Very 
> confusing.. I don't see why they couldn't just use one type 
> on front and rear.. good luck.
> 
> -Ameer  
> 
> ---Original Message---
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:15:59 -0700
> From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
> Subject: Re: [urq] Ur-quattro rear subframe bushes
> To: "Phil Payne" <quattro at isham-research.com>, <urq at audifans.com>,
> 	<quattro at audifans.com>
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> 
> I recently did my front subframe bushings (same as rear I'm 
> assuming) with help of other listers.  We used a press 
> (20-ton?) to push the old ones out, new ones in.  No piston 
> ring compressor type contraption needed, although I can see 
> how that could be helpful.  I believe we just lubed them up a 
> little bit, and a few times they'd slip and not go in 
> straight.  After a few attempts they went in straight.
> 
> All in all, it was the press that mde the job totally do-able, IMO.
> 
> Brandon
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Payne" <quattro at isham-research.com>
> To: <urq at audifans.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:47 AM
> Subject: [urq] Ur-quattro rear subframe bushes
> 
> 
> > Odd-looking things - looks like they need some kind of compressor 
> > (like a
> piston ring
> > compressor) to get them in.
> >
> > Any experience?
> >
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