Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq

R Mangas porter_dog at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 14 13:46:55 EST 2003


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  I would consider paying by credit card, collecting my car and my parts and
then contesting the charges with the cc company.  Not sure you'll get
anywhere, but at least you'll have a shot at it and you'll have your car
back.  DON'T let those less-than-trained monkeys near your vehicle again.
Then throw a rock through thier window.




>From: rizov_d at shaw.ca
>To: R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com>
>CC: quattro at audifans.com, bradym at sympatico.ca
>Subject: Re: RE: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq
>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:21:03 -0700
>The latest facts:

1.The rear part of the shaft is bent

2.Vibrations -only while accelerating

3.Coasting does not produce vibrations

4.Driving up to 50km/h is sustainable.

I have two options now:

to pay the bill and my damaged car
to go on with repairs- an used shaft in place of mine shaft
I have no experience paying for damages yet,

Should I pay them or what are my options?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Dobby




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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:21:03 -0700
From: rizov_d at shaw.ca
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq
To: R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com>
Cc: quattro at audifans.com, bradym at sympatico.ca
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The latest facts:

1.The rear part of the shaft is bent

2.Vibrations -only while accelerating

3.Coasting does not produce vibrations

4.Driving up to 50km/h is sustainable.

I have two options now:

to pay the bill and my damaged car
to go on with repairs- an used shaft in place of mine shaft

I have no experience paying for damages yet,

Should I pay them or what are my options?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Dobby





----- Original Message -----

From: R Mangas <porter_dog at hotmail.com>

Date: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:27 am

Subject: Re: RE: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq

>
> Lock it manually and tape/tie the actuator in the locked
> position like
> Brady suggested. It won't go the way you described. Brady's
> advice about
> running away from the shop and not letting them touch your car
> again was
> spot on, IMO.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: rizov_d at shaw.ca
> >To: Lines Peter <peterl at warn.com>
> >CC: quattro at audifans.com
> >Subject: Re: RE: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq
> >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:32:29 -0700
> >
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> >
> >I lost the ability to lock the center differential 4 months ago
> >
> >I can lok only the rear diff.
> >
> >Can i drive with no shaft and non locked center diff?
> >
> >Dobby
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >
> >From: Lines Peter <peterl at warn.com>
> >
> >Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:08 pm
> >
> >Subject: RE: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq
> >
> > > You can drive the car a short distance if you take out the center
> > > shaft and
> > > lock the center diff. This will allow you to get the car away
> > > from the
> > > shop. It will also let you determine if the vibration is in the
> > > tranny. If
> > > it doesn't vibrate with the shaft out, then it's definitely
> the shaft
> > > causing the noise. Also, the shaft/yoke may not actually be bent.
> > > It can
> > > vibrate badly with a good straight shaft that is not shimmed
> > > properly at the
> > > center bearing. I don't think you need a new shaft.
> > > They don't appear to know what they are talking about. I would
> > > pay them to
> > > remove the shaft, put the shaft in the trunk, lock the diff. and
> > > get your
> > > car out of that shop. Let me know if you need any help.
> > > -Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rizov_d at shaw.ca [mailto:rizov_d at shaw.ca]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:55 AM
> > > To: Lines Peter
> > > Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The reason for the suggestion to rebuilt the transmission was a
> > > noise coming
> > > from the area just behind my hand brake(behind the front
> seats). My
> > > expertise was the bearing, also I have estimates from other shops,
> > > pointinthe bearing as noisy.
> > >
> > > The shop owner said that the tranny is the problem not the
> bearing.> >
> > > I insisted for bearing replacement and because the yoke was very
> > > hard to
> > > drive out they bent something-yoke or the shaft. They stated that
> > > because of
> > > vibrations now the car is not driveble.
> > >
> > > The owner keeps blamind me, "because I asked them to do something
> > > they did
> > > not want to do", I shoud pay for all
> > >
> > > time spent beyond estimated time and for all future repairs if I
> > > wand that
> > > car fixed.
> > >
> > > There are no shafts around and I'm looking for any help!
> > >
> > > Thx,
> > >
> > > Dobby
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Lines Peter <peterl at warn.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:24 am
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: Transmission and propeller shaft on 86 4kq
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Your tranny is certainly not limited to 200,000 km. I had mine
> > > > apart for
> > > > new syncros at 220,000 miles (about 350,000 km) and it looked
> > > perfect.
> > > > Anyone who would make a statement like that is an idiot. You
> > > > should avoid
> > > > that shop like the plague and advise everyone you know to do the
> > > > same. The
> > > > only thing in the tranny that could possibly affect the prop
> > > shaft
> > > > is the
> > > > bearing in the rear cover (which could be replaced without even
> > > > removing the
> > > > tranny). Certainly no reason for a rebuild! Did the rear tranny
> > > > flangehave some slop or something? Why would the guy want to
> > > > rebuild the tranny?
> > > > How do you know the shaft it bent? Did the monkey at the shop
> > > > bend it? The
> > > > vibration you feel may be due to incorrect shimming at the
> > > center
> > > > bearing.The Bentley is very specific about the measurement
> > > > procedure. A couple of
> > > > millimeters makes the differnence between an undrivable car and
> > > > one that is
> > > > smooth to max. vehicle speed. I can give you some specifics from
> > > the
> > > > Bentley is you lack the manual...
> > > >
> > > > Peter Lines
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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