where to get 4kq springs??????

Todd Phenneger tquattroguy at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 3 13:16:56 EDT 2003


I cant confirm any of this but I can confirm that a 4kq REAR
spring comes in around 105lb/in.  And a 90q rear which sits
about 1/2" taller comes in around 110 - 115 lb/in.  Not a huge
difference but enough that when I put 90q springs on the back of
a 4kq it raised it to sit level and seemed to firm up the rear
just a little.
  I dont have a clue what the rates of the front springs are
though.  ANd I came into this thread late so I could be giving
useless info that no one cares about anyhow.  Hmm, back to the
Garage.
l8r
   Todd Phenneger
   FS 84' 4000 turbo quattro with ur-q suspension and brakes.

--- Chris Semple <chris at force5auto.com> wrote:
>
> > passat TS passat_ts at hotmail.com
> > Tue, 01 Jul 2003 14:18:24 +0000
>
> > Jason,
> > I can't discuss your findings, since I have not background
> to do so.
> > and please I'm not disputing anything, this is just IMHO.
> > However, my old friend common sense tells me:
>
> > 1. 4k has the weight distribution moved a bit to the back
> due
> > to the 016
> > transmission, prop shaft, rear diff, rear suspension, etc.
> >
> > 2.4K even with the new weight distribution still have the
> > engine in the
> > front. which I believe makes the front heavier than the
> back,
> > but lighter
> > than a CGT.
> >
> > 3. The CGT is nose heavy as hell, with the engine and 093
> transmission
> > concentrated around the front "axle", and nothing on the
> back.
> >
> > My conclusion sorting from the higher spring rate to the
> lower is:
> >
> > CGT Front
> > 4K Front
> > 4K Rear
>
> Hmmm, not sure I'd buy into this ordering. I haven't measured
> the spring
> rates myself either(which would be a cool week-end project for
> all the
> springs laying around), but here's how my logic reads it....
>
> 811-411-105K is all the Coupe GT front springs '82-'87.5, it's
> also the
> factory spring of choice for the '84+ 4000s 4cyl cars and the
> ole venerable
> 5+5's.
>
> 321-411-105C is all the 4kqs front spring, also found in 4000s
> 5cyl cars and
> 4cyl *with a/c*. One might assume this spring to be the
> heavier duty vs the
> 105K.
>
> 857-511-115C is all the 4kq rear springs, a straight up ur-q
> part, which
> we'd all agree to be beefy.
>
> Any chance of reversing your listed order?
>
> -Cheers
> Chris Semple
> Concord NH
> '92 S4
>    '81 Vw pickup
>       '96 Int'l 4700
>


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