window and sr inop

[Henry A Harper III]

There is a relay/control unit, it is under the dash behind the driver's
knee-crush bolster. But before you go digging in there, please pull back
the rubber bellows between the driver's door and car body and inspect the
wires in there for breakage, there is probably a big fat brown (ground) one
that is mostly broken but sometimes making a little contact. The wires used
in the joints can't take 10+ years of flexing and I have replaced all the
flexing wires in both front doors and the trunk hinge in my car. Best fix
is to snip and replace wire segments one by one, but you may be able to
squeak by for a while without taking the door and dash apart (until the
next one breaks) by butt-splice/crimping the ends together in the bellows.

HTH
Henry Harper
http://www.henry-harper.com hah at alumni.rice.edu
1991 200 quattro, 119.9k, 26-31mpg on 2000mi/30hr Santa Fe round trip,
thermostat replacement is only recent work and it barely saw 25mpg on
highway before this!
1988 GTI 16v, 236k

On Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:10 AM, Alexander Leventhal
[SMTP:alexander_t_leventhal at yahoo.com] wrote:
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> OK...a little more information on this one.  It does NOT appear to be the
ignition switch (jiggling or not starting engine at all does not help).
 Also, at night, when the windows and sr are inop, the switches do NOT
light up.  Occaisonally, the will light up, but if I press one of the
buttons, ALL of the switches go dark immediately, and do not come back on,
and the window does not move at all.  Does this help troubleshoot this at
all?  Also, is there a relay and if so, does anyone know where it is?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> Kneale Brownson <knotnook at traverse.com> wrote:
> I'd check for broken wires in the driver doorjamb. My 200q20v used to
> allow window/sunroof operation ONLY wiith the driver door part-way
> ajar. All the way open or closed meant they wouldn't work. I spliced in
> all new wires, one wire at a time, to get a fix. Used a combination of
> 12, 14, 16 and 22 gauge wires. Made crimped splices in the cabin and in
> the door. Been fine since last fall.
>
> At 12:13 PM 06/16/2003 -0700, Alexander Leventhal wrote:
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> >List:
> >
> >All of the windows and the sunroof on my 89 100q are inoperable (99% of
> >the time, occaisonally they work when I first start the car). I checked
> >the arcives and it seems if could be a relay or the ignition switch. Any
> >idea which is more likely or how to tell? Could somebody tell me where
> >this relay is and how to change it?
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Alex
> >
> >2001 A6q
> >1989 100q
> >1989 100 auto
> >1977 BMW 320i one off spyder
> >1974 MB 450slc
> >1974 Dino
> >1963 MB 220SEb Cab
> >
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