[urq] '83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?

[Dave Glubrecht]

I too have an 83 that I paid a vary fair price for.  It is in well used
daily driveable condition for a 20year old car.  I would say and have come
to the conclusion that most (esp an 83 Urq) old cars are very difficult to
fix up and "more than recoup my time and money" unless you are very
efficient at rebuilding/restoring cars.  The problem becomes much worse when
parts are as difficult and expensive as these are.
I will not be trying to restore mine, not that it is that bad and do plan on
upgrades, but with the cost of making it a nice example, mine will continue
to be enjoyed daily with no concerns of getting rock chips.
Also price just the cost of doing a nice paint job!
It also appears to me that you can get nice original cars for $8,000 to
$11,000 and decent cars that could realistically be fixed up in the $4k to
$5k range, even if you paid less (as I did) you should be able to sell in
this range thus setting the beginning value.
The only true reason for fixing up one of these is because you enjoy it.
The only other possible reason I can think of is if you want a nice one,
can't afford to buy it now in one lump sum.
   Dave G.






----- Original Message -----
From: "ben swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>; <urq at audifans.com>
Cc: <benswann at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:50 AM
Subject: [urq] '83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?


> I'm following up on the subject that started with questions regarding
> sorting out the wiring on the '83 UrQ I just got.
>
> I'd be interested to know what the car will be worth when I'm done.  I
> have 2 main objectives with the car.
>
> 1) to have a nice car to play with for awhile as I sort out and modify
> the car for performance and for my own pleasure.
>
> 2)eventually I will likely sell the car and more than recoup my time
> and money invested.
>
> I like to do things right, but not if I won't realize any return on my
> investment and time.  I have found spending a lot on the 4kq's and
> others, that I generally can't sell them for what I have put into
> them.  I'm hoping the Ur will be different, in that the car has more
> intrinsic value as a collectable.  So with that don't want to do
> anything that will actually lower the cars value - no bastard cludges!
>
> How much are these cars going for once well sorted, good paint job and
> around 250-300 HP?.
>
> My initial plan is to get the car sound driveability wise, sorting out
> suspension, trans. and motor mounts, and all the things that add up to
> taking the car form being a bit of a clap trap to tight and smooth.  I
> have the car so engine runs well, but could use some tightening up on
> suspension and drivetrain.  Nothing obvious, but I'm sure there are
> issues like CV boot, ball joints, struts, brakes and mounts that I know
> I'll need to address.
>
> Once I take car of the above and get the car inspected, I can tear it
> apart and rebuild it if it is worth it.
>
> I would like to upgrade the engine with an MC engine, as that is what I
> have.  Yeah, I know I can pop in a 20V 3B/AAN, but that implies some
> serious upfront investment, and at what return.  I know I can crank an
> easy 250-300 out of an MC which I'll rebuild for the car, and will
> already have two motors to choose from.
>
> So just trying to get a take on how far I should go before I am just
> wasting my time and money, as I know I'll be personally satisfied with
> the car once wiring, dash and engine are upgraded and it shines with a
> fresh paint job.
>
> Also, is there any merit to retaining the factory paint or just paint
> it what evr color I would choose?  This one is a metallic blue/green,
> nice, but not necessarily the color of my choosing.
>
> Not looking for pie in the sky values, but realistic price one could
> get from a nicely restored '83 Ur Quattro.
>
> Ben
>
>
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