'83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?

[George Harris]

Unfortunately I have to second Carlos' comments. When I was toying with
the idea of restoring a Jaguar XKE but with a modern Jag engine, a much
more experienced Jag mechanic told me that a newer better engine would
reduce the value. And then of course there are the 'lumps' that have
Chev V8's in them. Much more reliable and cheaper, but no value
whatsoever :-)

Cheers
George

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> Ben,
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> I'll eventually going to do somewhat you proposing.I'm planning to buy an UrQ,
> keeping it in shape and seat on it for a while.I honestly doubt that this model
> will ever become a real classic, like a 60's muscle car.But, if I'm wrong in
> this assumption, the closer you have to the original the better will be the
> value on the long term perspective. This is true with any classic car. The
> explanation I had about it from a knowledgable person is that anyone can buy a
> late model and outperform the classic you have on hand (like an EVO or a STI
> for the UrQ), but less likely at the time it was built. This creates an appeal
> to the potential buyer, plus the other psychological factors like: my neighbor
> had one, or I always wanted one when I was in HS, I had to sell mine when I
> went broke, etc.
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> Common sense also plays a part.
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> Would you put your hard earned money in a heavily modified 30 years old sports
> car? with who knows how many hours of hard drive?
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> Would you buy a bone stock, clean look, preferable with low mileage?
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> Bottom line is it is hard to look at an UrQ as an investment of money, but
> rather the feeling of open the garage and drive it for couple of hours in a
> sunny weekend.
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> This is all IMHO.
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> Cheers,
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> Carlos
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>>From: ben swann
>>To: quattro at audifans.com, urq at audifans.com
>>CC: benswann at comcast.net
>>Subject: '83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?
>>Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:50:50 -0400
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>>I'm following up on the subject that started with questions regarding
>>sorting out the wiring on the '83 UrQ I just got.
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>>I'd be interested to know what the car will be worth when I'm done. I
>>have 2 main objectives with the car.
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>>1) to have a nice car to play with for awhile as I sort out and modify
>>the car for performance and for my own pleasure.
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>>2)eventually I will likely sell the car and more than recoup my time
>>and money invested.
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>>I like to do things right, but not if I won't realize any return on my
>>investment and time. I have found spending a lot on the 4kq's and
>>others, that I generally can't sell them for what I have put into
>>them. I'm hoping the Ur will be different, in that the car has more
>>intrinsic value as a collectable. So with that don't want to do
>>anything that will actually lower the cars value - no bastard cludges!
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>>How much are these cars going for once well sorted, good paint job and
>>around 250-300 HP?.
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>>My initial plan is to get the car sound driveability wise, sorting out
>>suspension, trans. and motor mounts, and all the things that add up to
>>taking the car form being a bit of a clap trap to tight and smooth. I
>>have the car so engine runs well, but could use some tightening up on
>>suspension and drivetrain. Nothing obvious, but I'm sure there are
>>issues like CV boot, ball joints, struts, brakes and mounts that I know
>>I'll need to address.
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>>Once I take car of the above and get the car inspected, I can tear it
>>apart and rebuild it if it is worth it.
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>>I would like to upgrade the engine with an MC engine, as that is what I
>>have. Yeah, I know I can pop in a 20V 3B/AAN, but that implies some
>>serious upfront investment, and at what return. I know I can crank an
>>easy 250-300 out of an MC which I'll rebuild for the car, and will
>>already have two motors to choose from.
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>>So just trying to get a take on how far I should go before I am just
>>wasting my time and money, as I know I'll be personally satisfied with
>>the car once wiring, dash and engine are upgraded and it shines with a
>>fresh paint job.
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>>Also, is there any merit to retaining the factory paint or just paint
>>it what evr color I would choose? This one is a metallic blue/green,
>>nice, but not necessarily the color of my choosing.
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>>Not looking for pie in the sky values, but realistic price one could
>>get from a nicely restored '83 Ur Quattro.
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>>Ben
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