[urq] '83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?

ben swann benswann at comcast.net
Fri Jun 20 09:36:36 EDT 2003


Yes, I know the 200 20Vtqa is heavier then the comparable 5ktqa, but am
just using for comparison.  More power isn't necessarily the only way
to increase takeoff times!

That is the idea behind putting this power in the UrQ.  I know I could
do even more with the 20V motor, but I will have 2 MC-1s on hand and no
3B/AAN motors.  The MC-1 conversion should be respectable at the very
least.

I could also easily retrofit the original engine back in later if for
some reason I want to.  I think I may clean up the original and crate
it for posterity, but oerhaps I could put it to good use elsewhere -
mindgears turning.

Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: John Karasaki <johkar at teleport.com>
Date: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:28 am
Subject: Re: [urq] '83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?

> Sounds good, especially since you've done it before.  One comment
> on you
> comparing your current ride (20vt): that is one heavy car that you
> are
> comparing to a much lighter car!  Put that motor, stock in your
> urq, and
> you would have a rocket.  Drop some $$ on RS2 goodies, and holy
> $hit batman!
>
> I'll live vicariously through you for now!  Good luck with the mods!

> At 12:28 AM 6/20/03 -0400, you wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >Basically I am going to augment the CIS system including a few other
> >mods with 034EFI.  Fuel tapped off pre-CIS and fed directly into the
> >engine.  Oversimplified, but that is what I am referring to.
> >
> >CIS works fairly well otherwise, and this is fairly easy to
> implement.>
> >Ben
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: John Karasaki <johkar at teleport.com>
> >Date: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:11 pm
> >Subject: Re: [urq] '83 UrQuattro - Whats it worth?
> >
> > > At 09:50 AM 6/19/03 -0400, ben swann wrote:
> > > ><snip>
> > >
> >
> > >serious upfront investment, and at what return.  I know I can
> crank an
> > >easy 250-300 out of an MC which I'll rebuild for the car, and will
> > >already have two motors to choose from.
> >
> >Ben,
> >
> >No one can "crank an easy 250-300 hp out of an MC."  A few of the
> best>Audi
> >tuners here in the NW that have instrumented and measured the
> heck out
> >of
> >these cars aren't getting actual HP near that range.  My
> understanding>is
> >that the CIS leans out before you get there and you really need
> EFI to
> >see
> >250+ consistently with the MC engines.
> >
> >Therefore, to get there is $$$ or time or both whether you go EFI
> MC or
> >20vt with Audi's EFI.
> >
> >My suggestion is to make the car as fast and DEPENDABLE as you
> can for
> >a
> >reasonable outlay of cash and enjoy it.  Unless you stole the car
> when>you
> >bought it, you won't recover what you put into it, IMHO.
> >
> >If anyone has the "holy grail" of MC, non-EFI power and can prove it,
> >please let me know!
> >
> > >
> > > >So just trying to get a take on how far I should go before I
> am just
> > > >wasting my time and money, as I know I'll be personally satisfied
> > > with>the car once wiring, dash and engine are upgraded and it
> > > shines with a
> > > >fresh paint job.
> > > >
> > > >Also, is there any merit to retaining the factory paint or
> just paint
> > > >it what evr color I would choose?  This one is a metallic
> blue/green,> > >nice, but not necessarily the color of my choosing.
> > > >
> > > >Not looking for pie in the sky values, but realistic price
> one could
> > > >get from a nicely restored '83 Ur Quattro.
> > > >
> > > >Ben
> > > >
> > > >
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