[torsen] Re: 3B tranny same as MC-2 tranny?

Michael Gough mdg3369 at newtsplace.com
Wed Mar 5 17:02:17 EST 2003


I don't want to be a pain in the ass...but I have to point out that having
500hp won't break the transmission. Horsepower won't break anything...Torque
will.
476hp @ 10,000 RPM is only 250ft/lbs of torque.
380hp @ 2000 RPM on the other hand, wile being nearly 100hp less, is 1000
ft/lbs of torque.
Which will break the tranny? Not the high horsepower motor....
Just keep this in mind, it really irritates me when people quote HP when
talking about tranny and drive train failures.
Mike


> Bob, not sure where you're getting your info, but the standard 016 can
> easily handle 350hp, esp. in the higher gears.  First gear is always an
> issue, but south of 500hp I've never heard of a tranny failure due to hp in
> the higher gears.  Would be nice to think you could break an Audi 4 or 5th
> gear because of power, something to brag about really ;)
>
> Javad
>
>>Hope nobody minds me taking the thread in a slightly different
>>direction.
>>Let's assume one were to embark on a project to build a really high HP
>>20V urq.
>>I am talking beyond the 350-370 HP we see in rs2 clothing, and going
>>north of 400hp with huge torque with a 2.5l stroker AAN.
>>I have heard that the transmission is the biggest issue, in that the 016
>>3rd and 4th gears can't handle power in excess of about 350 hp.
>>Would that leave an 01E as the only remaining transmission choice
>>capable of handling that much power?  Does anyone have any BTDT in what
>>it takes to shove an O1E into a urq?  
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: QSHIPQ at aol.com [mailto:QSHIPQ at aol.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 6:08 PM
>>To: benswann at comcast.net
>>Cc: JShadzi at aol.com; quattro at audifans.com; 200q20v at audifans.com;
>>auditude at cox.net; urq at audifans.com; torsen at audifans.com
>>Subject: Re: [torsen] Re: 3B tranny same as MC-2 tranny?
>>
>>
>>I'm a locker guy thru and thru.  It requires more involvement from the
>>driver, and you lose ABS function during activation (and don't forget
>>that with the conversion you will need to run an ABS OFF wire), but it
>>also depends on what you plan on doing with the car in terms of
>>performance and/or driving environment.
>>
>>As a rule, lockers are predictable at the limit (read U all the time),
>>Torsens aren't.  What you need to assess is where you drive.  Don't
>>forget to factor that *at the limit* is at the limit of adhesion, which
>>isn't always in a performance environment, read: it's strictly a HP/CF
>>ratio.
>>
>>Ben, you've had both, trust your instincts.  
>>
>>Scott aka "torsen boy" Justusson
>>In a message dated 3/5/2003 12:18:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>benswann at comcast.net writes:
>>
>>> Scott, Q-Phile,
>>>
>>> Now for the question that perhaps should go to the T* list.  Is there
>>> any merit to doing this, or is the t* system in there
>>> really better,
>>> even though it doesn't feel like it to me.
>>>
>>> Any BTDT?
>>>
>>> Ben
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