evil fram

[Fred Munro]

Whoa, that letter says it all!

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoder, Doug [mailto:yoderw at msoe.edu]
Sent: May 20, 2003 10:42 PM
To: Fred Munro
Cc: JShadzi at aol.com; santoliquido at cox.net; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: Re: evil fram


The website in question is Russ Knize's oil filter study site.  He had
it up for a while, then disappeared for a while.  It can now be found at
http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html

He has an email from a former FRAM employee... quite interesting!
http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilter-fram1.txt

-Doug

Fred Munro wrote:

> Hi Javad;
>
> There was a website up a couple of years ago in which a chap had
> disassembled most available oil filters and looked at construction, length
> of filter media, number of pleats, etc. It was most illuminating, given
that
> he noted there were only a few manufacturers despite the many brand names
> out there. His site informed the reader how to ID the filters from the
> different manufactures in spite of the brand name.
> Which filter was the worst? Our orange buddy - they use glued cardboard
> headers on the end of the media, no wonder they fall apart.
> Guess who threatened to sue and made him take his site down?
> As I recall, he identified AC Delco and Bosch as superior filters.
>
> His site may be back up - I ran across something similar a few months ago.
> If you can find it, it's well worth the read.
>
> Fred Munro
> '94 S4 (only dealer filters on the Audi & AC Delco on everything else)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-admin at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
> Behalf Of JShadzi at aol.com
> Sent: May 19, 2003 11:44 PM
> To: santoliquido at cox.net; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: evil fram
>
>
> Wow, so the filter media just came apart?  Unbelievable, I've never seen
> anything like that.  Does Fram make a post oil-filter filter??  ;)
>
> Javad
>
>
>>I noticed when changing the filter that the filter media had collapsed and
>
> was torn and protruding from the housing. Over the next two weeks I
noticed
> increased lifter noise. Then one fatefull day I got the low oil pressure
> warning light accompanied by a sharp increase in lifter noise. BTW no oil
> pressure gage on the '87 CGT (a design flaw soon to be remadied).
>
>>I dismantled the engine and found filter media packed in behind the
>
> anti-drain check valve in the oil galley to the head. All other passages
> were clear. Final damage assesment; Minimal. But I did source a recently
> worked NG head at a reasonable price. So; in it goes.
>
>>Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>Can you guys who've had failures explain exactly what
>>happend to the filter=
>>, what appeared to fail, how so, etc.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Javad
>
>

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