No subject

and engineering driven.  Its a function of machine set up time, amount and
frequency of QC varying with the steps in the manufacture process. Material
and labor tend to be fixed costs on something like this.  We used to make
low volume high precision fasteners for Boeing that made thousand $ toilet
seats look like child's play.  For example a panel fastener that we sold for
$1500 that we lost money on.

But without a cost analysis its anyone's guess.

C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Simmons" <richard at urquattro.org>
To: "ccohen5" <ccohen5 at compuserve.com>; "Phil Payne"
<quattro at isham-research.com>; "Jim Haseltine" <Jim at ur-q.freeserve.co.uk>;
<urq at audifans.com>; "qlist" <quattro at audifans.com>; "Brett Dikeman"
<brett at cloud9.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:05 AM
Subject: RE: [urq] Timin Belt change time


>
> You possible would not even buy a Valve for a formula One car at that
price
> but yes the prices are stupid.
>
>
> In the UK you can buy a NEW head for a WR for 310.00 pounds plus tax(
> exchange). A set of valves cost nearly that. (its even got new exhaust
> studs)
>
> So I bought one.  Then I needed a rebore. So OK what the price of a short
> engine. 800 / 1200 /1500 pounds - NO 4,500 pounds  PLUS TAX.
>
> Just where do they get the prices from !!!
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: urq-admin at audifans.com [mailto:urq-admin at audifans.com]On Behalf Of
> ccohen5
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:16 AM
> To: Phil Payne; Jim Haseltine; urq at audifans.com; qlist; Brett Dikeman
> Subject: Re: [urq] Timin Belt change time
>
>
> >From some of the parts that I have been able to find, they have been
> ordering a few of the less involved components to help keep us on the
road.
>
> But you would have thought that they could have been more creative about
the
> process even if the end result was that we had to pay a ton to get the
> parts.  I am not sure whether I would buy a head JIC?  Beddor might with
his
> 4 SQs, but I cannot imagine Audi ever selling more than 2 or 3 in a 5 year
> frame.  At the cost which would approach Formula One prices, I cannot
> imagine them building these to sit on the shelf.
>
> Colin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Dikeman" <brett at cloud9.net>
> To: "Phil Payne" <quattro at isham-research.com>; "Jim Haseltine"
> <Jim at ur-q.freeserve.co.uk>; <urq at audifans.com>; "qlist"
> <quattro at audifans.com>; "ccohen5" <ccohen5 at compuserve.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [urq] Timin Belt change time
>
>
> >
> > At 9:34 AM +0100 11/4/01, Phil Payne wrote:
> >
> > >The belt on David Sutton's KW (S1) failed as Michele was bringing the
car
> > >back to the paddock after a second practice run at Goodwood.  It was
> eleven
> > >years and 900 miles old.
> >
> > I would really, really not want to be the guy who was responsible for
> > the "do we change the t-belt" decision.  Can you say, "keel-hauled"?
> >
> > >  Audi have a VERY limited stock of parts and getting
> > >the bits necessary to rebuild the head was a matter of negotiation.  I
> > >_think_ the engine has now been rebuilt - it's about four years since
the
> > >incident.
> >
> > You would think that it would be in everyone's best interests,
> > preservation-wise, to get the original supplier of the head to
> > re-tool and produce some more heads.  It's not like most Sport Q
> > owners couldn't afford the price of such an endeavor, right?
> > Wouldn't -you- rather have one on hand, that you had to pay a hefty
> > price for, rather than not have one at all, just in case?  Granted, I
> > bet it would lower the value of the car if it ever had to be used,
> > but probably not as much as having a useless motor(or a non Sport-Q
> > motor.)
> >
> > I'm assuming that the casting is the most important part, that if you
> > had it, that solves most of your problem(ie, the rest of the head is
> > made up of obtainable or substitutable parts)?
> >
> > Brett
> > --
> > ----
> > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary
> > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin
> > http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/
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>
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