4kq needs new suspension; spring q

[R Mangas]

  Crafty solution!   I'm trying to find out more about the 90q springs Huw
thinks will fit- supposedly they're uprated all the way around from the 4kq
units.  More understeer is the last thing I need; I was actually thinking
that if I got the right springs I could delete the front bar and run with no
sways at all...

Muffler clamp adjustable perches.  Kudos!

>From: "Jason Gray" <jason510 at att.net>
>To: <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: 4kq needs new suspension; spring q Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 09:09:08
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>Rob- My solution to exactly this same delima is at;
>
>http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/quattro/20020927/062581.html
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>One note, if you try to use front 4K springs on the rear as Luke suggest;
>first measure the spring rates of the stock 4Kq F& R springs and you will
>find that the front springs (while having longer free length) also have a
>lower (softer) spring rate than the rear springs. If you lack the know-how
>for measuring the rates, at least measure the wire coil diameter and you
>will see that the rear springs are made from thicker wire (making them
>significantly stiffer).  I took the spring rate measurements myself, but in
>our last list debate, others verified that the rear 4Kq springs are in fact
>stiffer than the front. While the rear suspension will ride higher and
>"function" with front quattro springs in the rear,  the softer spring in
>the rear location with no other modifications will "tune" the suspension
>for increased body roll and increased understeer handeling of the car. Just
>because others have done this doesnt necessarily mean it is a well thought
>out solution for better performance handeling. Consult a handeling
>adjustment chart such as at;
>http://www.zcsd.org/tech-articles/tune-your-suspension.html  for general
>spring tuning guidelines.
>
>-Jason Gray
>Anchorage AK
>4kq needs new suspension; spring q
>R Mangas porter_dog at hotmail.com
>Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:41:41 -0400
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>    Greetings.  Been away for a while, new house, two cars, dogs
>Greetings.  Been away for a while, new house, two cars, dogs, girl....
>
>My '87 4kq is still running on stock bits.  Only 75k, so they're not as
>shot
>as one might intially imagine, but shot nonetheless.  My biggest question
>at
>this point is the springs.  The rears are really sagged, so I want to
>replace them but most of the aftermarket units drop the car ~1.5".   The
>4kq
>is my winter car, so that's not very appealing.  I have the ground control
>coilovers on my Miata, and like them just fine but I'd rather not spend 4
>bills on springs.
>
>    Are there crafty options that will allow me to uprate the springs some
>and retain stock travel and ground clearance?  I could certainly buy the
>aftermarket units and install spacers (kludge!), but I'm hoping someone
>will
>tell me that "The 5000 turbo diesel wagon rear springs will fit.  They're
>1.87x stock and add another half inch of ride height." or something
>similar...
>
>I can dream, can't I? :)
>
>TIA,
>Robert
>Detroit (Rock City!)
>
>From: <lrickert at covad.net>
> >To: <porter_dog at hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: 4kq needs new suspension; spring q
> >Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >this has lead to some contentions debate in the not so distant past (one
> >person with the idea that they don't work right and many of us having
> >actually done it knowing that it does in fact work.) put 80q fronts in
>the
> >front and move the stock 4kq front springs to the rear. (this is what I
> >have on my car) It raises the car a bit and works well although I might
>do
> >it the other way (80q fronts in the back leaving the stock fronts alone)
> >to keep the back up bit higher.  I suppose you could also just swap both
> >front and rear 80q springs in, I am not exactly sure how this would sit
> >but I imagine it would work fine and probably ride a little better.
>While
> >you are there adapt an extra front sway-bar to the rear suspension (easy
> >$10 one hour project) http://home.covad.net/~rickert/Audi.html for
> >pictures of what I did.
> >
> >Good luck
> >
> >Luke
>
>
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