thowing gasoline on troubled waters
Huw Powell
audi at humanspeakers.com
Wed Aug 11 21:31:51 EDT 2004
> As gasoline prices climb
Actually, prices have been fairly stable. But, the dollar has tanked
against other major currencies.
>> THE HIDDEN COST OF HYBRID CARS
>>
>> Hybrid cars are hitting our roads in ever increasing numbers as
>> purchase prices come down and fuel prices go up. But the substantial
>> hidden costs of owning a hybrid car could make it a financial time bomb.
Gee, didn't we always know they used batteries?
>> Owners of 'environmentally friendly' hybrid cars like the Toyota Prius
>> and Honda Insight may be hit with a bill for up to $7000 when their
>> car's battery dies less than eight years after purchase.
>> "A replacement battery on the Insight retails for $6840," said Honda
>> spokesman Mark Higgins.
and from lower in the article:
>> Toyota lowered the price significantly on the Prius battery pack,
>> from
>> $4500 on the first model to around $3000 on the latest version
>> Toyota's manager of alternative fuels and specialized vehicles, Vic
>> Johnstone, concedes the batteries, like the car itself, are built to
>> last less than a decade. "The life of the car and the battery are
>> supposed to be the same... around 8 to 10 years," he said. "We're not
>> expecting to replace them [the batteries]. In fact we only hold one
>> [replacement] battery in stock nationally."
>
> Interesting - buy this car and expect to discard it in eight to ten
> years . . . ! Average Prius sells for $24,000, so you have an annual
> cost of ownership of between $2,400 and $3,000.
Most new car buyers don't keep them for their "lifetime" anyway.
>> Despite the dramatic price drop, hybrid ownership remains a nod to
>> better fuel economy, not financial savings. CarPoint's review of the
>> Prius, published in October, compared the hybrid's fuel consumption to
>> a similarly specified Toyota Corolla, and reached the conclusion it
>> would take 15 years before the Prius' fuel economy paid off the extra
>> purchase price.
doesn't that analysis depend on a hidden assumption (or two) - one, the
cost of fuel for the time involved, and two, the number of miles driven
per year?
>> Add battery replacement every eight years to this equation, and
>> replacement parts costs as the vehicle exceeds its planned life of ten
>> years and components wear out, and owners have no chance of ever
>> seeing a dollar back.
OK, so they are perhaps not "cheaper" in dollars to drive than a
Corolla. But no car actually gets you money "back" (unless you buy it
used and sell it for more...).
> Conclusion - these vehicles are an EXPENSIVE way to "feel good"
But far cheaper than, say, an SUV, which people also buy to "feel good"
> After a careful look, I'd suggest these vehicles be avoided - they ain't
> no bargain, and the cure appears worse than the disease.
Nickel was described, a few paragraphs below the scary word "toxicity"
as "mildly toxic." Sure, you don't want a landfill full of the stuff,
but we plate things with it all over the place. And it *is* reclaimable.
> Give them ten more years to solve the problems, then come back and try
> again.
Sounds to me like a poorly written article sourced mostly from gasoline
industry handouts.
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Huw Powell
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http://www.humanthoughts.org/
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