Delrin or Poly bushings? Worth it?

[Ed Kellock]

Exactly what I do with the one caveat being to not carry too much
speed in so that it plows when I put down the power.  Finessing that
is the coolest part because when I do it right, I'm usually at full
boost before corner exit.  I think it's the fastest way through the
corner, but I know it's the most fun, for me.

Ed

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:51:02 +0100, Alan Pritchard
<apritchard at seaeye.com> wrote:
> Yep, dunno if it's the proper line, but I find going as wide as possible,
> and turning in late then going full throttle. Feels fun, and generally makes
> some distance to my friends in their fwd cars behind ;)
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Ed Kellock [mailto:ekellock at gmail.com]
> Sent:   18 August 2004 20:16
> To:     qlist
> Subject:        Re: Delrin or Poly bushings? Worth it?
> 
> I have found that to take the best advantage of the power and traction
> combination available with quattro, earlier braking and a late apex
> allow the best time through the corner.  This dictates a slightly
> different line and it may not be the shortest, but it limits the
> amount of understeer plow that occurs and allows more time at full
> throttle.  I didn't discover this on my own, but I've compared it to
> the "traditional line" and it's far quicker.  Just ask my 951-driving
> friend who followed me in my 200 around Pueblo many times one day.
> 
> Ed
> 
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:43:28 -0400, TM <t44tq at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Ed-
> > I disagree- the proper line for track and street driving (not autox) is
> > basically the same, regardless of the car. Now in terms of throttle and
> > brake application, that would differ between various cars and their
> > individual handling characteristics.
> >
> > I don't see how the proper line for a 951 would be any different than
> > for
> > a Coupe GT or an A4. The fastest way through a corner is the shortest,
> > unless
> > there are extenuating circumstances that require modification of that
> > principle (such as being very bumpy at the apex and not allowing for
> > proper
> > throttle application coming out, in which case you would want to go a
> > bit
> > wide to avoid the bumps).
> >
> > As for the original question, I would go with poly bushings, as long as
> > you
> > can live with the squeak that might occur and then have to lube them
> > regularly.
> >
> > Taka
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > First of all, if you've been following the thread, the car in question,
> > the one that's getting its suspension rebuilt isn't a quattro, it's a
> > Coupe GT, so the ref to AWD isn't directly applicable.
> >
> > Second, the process of "learning the proper line" is not the same thing
> > as learning the "proper line" for the car in question.  For some it is a
> > matter of opinion.  The proper line for a Porsche 951 will not
> > necessarily be the best line for a quattro.  So I would think that there
> > might be some advantage to "learning the proper line" from one who is
> > familiar with what is the "proper line" for an AWD car versus another.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:07:44 -0400, TM <t44tq at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > It is really incorrect to imply that HPDEs run by other organizations
> > > can't teach you how to drive your Audi quattro.
> > >
> > > AWD doesn't make any difference when you're talking about learning the
> >
> > > proper line, how to apply brake and throttle smoothly, understanding
> > > and seeing the apex of a corner, car control skills, learning about
> > > under- and oversteer, how to heel-and-toe downshift and rev match
> > > smoothly, etc. Those basic skills are all the same, regardless of the
> > > car.
> > >
> > > Heck, I practice apexing and proper exit lines every day in an
> > > automatic Beetle. :-)
> >
> >
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