MC-1 MC-2 - Block any difference?

Ben Swann benswann at comcast.net
Mon Feb 23 18:09:24 EST 2004


Javad,

Why do you say not Motronic in a 10V?

Ben
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Subject: Re: MC-1 MC-2 - Block any difference?


> Ben, just to be real clear on this issue (cause its close to my heart),
*and I'm not saying you implied this*, but... I don't tune for big dyno #'s,
big dyno #'s are the result of a powerful, well tuned car.  Any advice you
get from me will be in the context of reliable, smooth, everyday power, and
as much of it as you like (ie: the intended application or result of the
project).
>
> I commuted 60 miles a day in my 80tq for 3 years, 400hp and all, and got
near 30mpg, never left me stranted once.
>
> Again, not saying you accused me of tuning for "sloppy power", but making
a 400hp 10v run smooth everyday isn't too difficult with the right
management system (ie: not 3B Motronic, in a 10v anyway) and some attention
to detail.
>
> With that said, it doesn't sound like you're shooting for the moon wrt
power, so I'd recommend the MC2 for you, because it will perform better in
the range of power/use you're looking for.  A pinging motor is "sloppy" to
me, so if you wanted to run 20+psi boost, then the MC2 may become more and
more "sloppy", esp. w/o the right octange fuel or engine management system.
>
> And, IME, water injection will only take you so far, there is nothing like
the proper octane fuel for the application.
>
> 3B - 9.3:1
> MC2 - 8.4:1
>
> Javad
>
>
> >Javad,
> >
> >I'm trying to be realistic. As much as I'd like to see this car on the
> >track, I am really looking for streetable power. So I am doing things
more
> >from the perspective of how the car is going to do with everyday driving
the
> >main priority. I don't want to end up with something that runs sloppy or
> >evewn compromized on the bottom end and below 5K just so I can get good
dyno
> >numbers once in the engines liftetime or that perhaps that like to see
how
> >it does on a drag-strip, however tempting.
> >
> >I guess if I ever feel the need, that is what the high octane is about. I
> >would think if I want to go over 300HP, then I could install a water
> >injection system.
> >
> >Question: Isn't the MC-2 compression similar to the 3B?
> >
> >Ben
>



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