CIS-e problems[NG CIS-E3]

[Ben Swann]

That is about right.  I have not been able to do much better.

I'm getting mine from Rod at thepartsconnection.com because he has been able to
get me the accumulator  for less than anyone else and can ship today.
Chris at Force5 actually, but I save more than the diff on the accumulator.
Chris got me the lowest price by $1 per injector.  Both Rod and Chris cut
off their profit margin to get me a lowest price somewhat less than what you
mention - don't quote me, just ask them what their best deal is.  I know
they'll work with you if yor are ordering a lot of stuff.  I think Rod and
Chris have been taking a beating trying to keep their customers happy with
the echange rate making Bosch components more costly.  I know either of them
can get you a better price than what you mention below.

I have been having a hard time digesting these prices, because I was getting
them for well  under $40 a year or so ago.  This is why I have been
procrastinating on getting them.  I have come to reckoning that this needs
to be done, and so will bite the bullet.

Ben
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan K. Walsh" <bkwalsh4201 at hotmail.com>
To: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>; <quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: CIS-e problems[NG CIS-E3]


> Ben,
>
> Where are you buying from and what do they cost? europartsdirect.com has
> them listed at 48.99 for cis-e and 57.32 for the e3. If you've got a
better
> supplier I'd love to know.
>
> Regards
> Brendan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
> To: <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Cc: "Brian Sims" <sims at miliserv.net>; <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: CIS-e problems[NG CIS-E3]
>
>
> > Comments inserted - I'm ordering injectors today.  I know that
methodical
> > troubleshooting with fuel pressure test would be a good idea, but I feel
I
> > should install new injectors anyway, as I think these are crucial to
> > reliability in the long run.  At least then I'll have ruled leaky
> injectors
> > out as the culprit.
> >
> > Ben
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Huw Powell" <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> > To: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
> > Cc: "Brian Sims" <sims at miliserv.net>; <quattro at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 6:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: CIS-e problems
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Just cranking the engine over is not enough flow to lift
> > > > the plate.
> > >
> > > Taken pretty much out of context, I have to disagree with that one
> > > statement.  Cranking the engine over causes air to be pumped into the
> > > engine, which lifts the plate.  Not a lot, of course, but enough to
get
> > > things running.
> > >
> > > We also don't know *for sure* if the CISE3 CSV is getting the same,
> > > lower pressure as the other five injectors.
> > >
> > Correct - I've been making that assumption, but would be nice to verify.
> >
> > > I will also take this opportunity to once again say that I think the
CSV
> > > has *very little* to do with hard starting, especially if several
tries
> > > don't start the car easily.
> > >
> > Agreed - I think in my case it is a combination.  I feel quite certain
> that
> > in my case, insufficient pressure in the injector lines is the problem.
> The
> > question is WHY?
> >
> > I am certain there are no external leaks.  The injectors are not new and
> > probably have at least 80k on them and are the original ones for this
87.5
> > GT engine.  Pump is new NG pump.  Accumlator I assume is original for
the
> > '87 4000 Quattro the engine is installed into.  Entire CIS-E3 fuel
> > distributor/metering head was installed after extensive cleaning -  Fuel
> > Distributor was NOT disassembled, but plunger area cleaned thrououghly,
> and
> > airbox was swapped to accomodate metering head.  Temp sensor is new.
> >
> > > Residual pressure (check valve), vapor lock (perhaps due to leaky
> > > injectors), bad senders, vacuum leaks, static misadjustment, are more
> > > likely culprits.  And the ignition system, of course.  IMHO, for what
> > > it's worth.
> >
> > Ignition is good and the rest need to be checked out if injectors don't
> fix
> > the problem.   It will be another week before I get injectors.   Thanks
> for
> > your feedback - Happy New Year!
> >
> > Ben
> > > --
> > > Huw Powell> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi>
> > http://www.humanthoughts.org/
> >
> >
> >