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Mon Jan 26 23:30:27 EST 2004

Greg Galinsky wrote:

> Robert Myers wrote:
> 
>>
>> I, for one, highly value the contributions of several of our members 
>> who also happen to be in the OOOO business.  List members such as Ned 
>> Ritchie, Greg Galinsky, Phil Payne, Mihnea Cotet, and several others 
>> (who I hope forgive me for omitting reference to their names) 
>> frequently offer their expertise and experience to the list.  These 
>> contributions are offered, like everyone else's contributions, free of 
>> charge.  I would see absolutely nothing wrong with an occasional 
>> mention of their products or services, especially if they have 
>> something new to offer.  Their contributions have more than "paid" for 
>> any small amount of "advertising" they might receive.  I suppose it 
>> might be possible that someone might abuse the privilege but I don't 
>> recall any such abuse in the past and I'm sure that any such abuse 
>> could be handled in the future should it occur.
>>
>> At 08:30 AM 1/26/2004 -0500, Cody wrote:
>>
>>> My sentiments _exactly_ to the word. I was actually planning on 
>>> saying just that in about 5 minutes after I finished catching up on 
>>> my e-mail this morning! Like Mike said about my sig (and others 
>>> simmilar to mine), I mention my business name, but I have never tried 
>>> to sell anything on the list. I have on occasion asked about interest 
>>> for stuff to make, or asked about pricing on certain things I was 
>>> listing in the mraketplace, but never have done anything commercial 
>>> on the list. I definately agree on Mikes point about e-bay too, a 
>>> total ban of auction lins is over the edge, I love knowing about when 
>>> something is for sale that I may be interested in and I rarely check 
>>> e-bay due to the usual lack of 5cyl stuff.
>>>
>>> -Cody Forbes
>>> Black Forest Racing
>>> http://www.500tq.com
>>> '86 5ktq
>>> '87 5ktq EFI/K27
>>> '88 80 4cyl
>>> '88 90 4cyl
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: Mike Arman <armanmik at earthlink.net>
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:15:54 -0500
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I don't have any problem with an occasional ad on the list - I find 
>>> them
>>> >interesting, and useful to get an idea of what bits are selling for 
>>> on the
>>> >"casual" marketplace.
>>> >
>>> >I think what we might do is fine tune the policy - and we have not 
>>> really
>>> >been abusing it, so this isn't a "sky is falling and we gotta fix it 
>>> NOW!"
>>> >deal.
>>> >
>>> >Personal stuff mentioned one or at most two times, OK. Should ALSO 
>>> be on
>>> >marketplace.
>>> >
>>> >Unique stuff found on eBay (or wherever), no personal interest, OK
>>> >
>>> >Ads for businesses, not OK (belongs on vendor list)
>>> >
>>> >Sig lines with the name of the business, OK (I don't mind knowing what
>>> >other listers do for a living)
>>> >
>>> >Sig lines with name, phone number, fax, email, address, full product 
>>> line,
>>> >testimonials, we take credit cards etc. not OK (belongs on vendor list)
>>> >
>>> >Commercial ads (dealers) for cars for sale, not OK (belongs on 
>>> marketplace)
>>> >
>>> >A few of us are going to have a problem no matter what - Joel 
>>> Osserman, who
>>> >I believe is a leasing company, has a pretty specific sig line, but 
>>> since
>>> >he doesn't abuse the list by posting his entire off-lease sales list 
>>> every
>>> >two hours, I can't really see a problem. We have a number of other 
>>> listers
>>> >who make their living (or part of it) from the four rings, Phil Payne,
>>> >Scott Mockery (sp?), Cody Forbes (racing in S. Florida), Igor 
>>> Kessel, and
>>> >these people contribute to the list on a regular basis, so THEIR sig 
>>> line
>>> >is also part of their credentials.
>>> >
>>> >Appeals for help from relatives of dead dictators to sneak $X million
>>> >dollars out of sub-Saharan countries and please don't tell anyone - 
>>> take
>>> >'em out and shoot 'em.
>>> >
>>> >Best Regards,
>>> >Mike Arman
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> Tax cuts for the Resident's cronies.  $87 billion for Iraq.  School 
>> libraries are closing.  Yep - no child left behind.
>>
>> Bob
>> *****
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>>  '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen  ICQ 22170244
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> 
> I feel like a relative newcomer to the list.  I've only been posting for 
> a few years.  I've tried to offer my knowledge in an unbiased form to 
> those who may benefit from it.  Like some other people on the list in 
> "business"; we may have a higher level of expertise and exposure to more 
> situations.  It's from this experience that we are able to increase our 
> own knowledge and try to share it with the list.
> 
> The fine line gets to be when we post to the list; how does someone 
> interpet the post.  Different people may read different things in the 
> same post.   It's our obligation as professionals to try and post as 
> accurately as possible and in an unbiased manner.  Try not to start some 
> rants. I feel if I can share some valid info with the list; I'll do it 
> and give my opinions.  We don't want things to get to the point of 
> censorship, or do we?  I think that if those of us posters "in 
> business";  stick to posting  in fields of their knowledge it can only 
> help the list.  I feel OK posting to the Q list info about tires; 
> especially snow tires.  I'm not going to post to the list offering 
> advice on A6 turbos or anything else I don't have the slightest clue about.
> 
> As Rodney King said "can't we all just get along".  If anyone has 
> something to share that may help others; that I thought was the intent 
> of the list.
> 
> When some people complain about the bandwidth wasted about diffent sig 
> lines, etc; look then at the rants that start and use BW. how many 
> stupid posts have we already had about the sig lines!!!!!!!
> I'm only glad someone didn't post anything about Torsens in their sig 
> line; everyone would be mumbling and ranting.
> 
> Greg Galinsky
> G & G Service
> 