High perf tire selection question

[Ed Kellock]

There is a great difference between Sumitomo HTRZ2's and HTR+'s.  The
former is a much more performance oriented tire than the latter.

I have another friend who was also very happy with his Nitto's, but
I'm not sure what model they were, though they were 17's.

I believe Michelin Pilots are very good, but they are also very expensive.

In looking back, I think I've only ever spent my own money on Dunlops,
Sumitomos, or Hakka's.  This goes back to the early 90's.  I think the
last other brand I bought was Pirelli; some P500's or something on my
CGT which I was happy with.

Currently I have Dunlop SP8000's on my V8 and Dunlop FM901's on my
CGT.  I also wore out a set of the 8k's on my 200q.  Wouldn't buy the
FM901's again, at least no for high performance driving.  They're fine
for the CGT though.  Tire Rack still have the 8k's and the HTRz2's in
some sizes.

Seems there used to be more less-expensive tire choices in the recent
past.  Right now, it looks like Kumho and Yoko AVS/ES100's are about
it.

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Matus <mr_scsi at hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:32:29 +0000
Subject: Re: High perf tire selection question
To: ekellock at gmail.com, quattro at audifans.com

I have had the Michelin Pilots, Flaken, Sumitomo and Nitto Etreme 555s
on my wifes '02 A4 1.8TQM.  THe Sumitomo HTR+'s were very noisey

By far the Nitto's perform the best. 245/45ZR-17. My oipinion FWIW.

I'm planning to put these on the new V8 5-speed along with my new A8
17x8 ET35 wheels.

Scott.

>From: Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com> 
>To: qlist <quattro at audifans.com> 
>Subject: Re: High perf tire selection question 
>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:23:30 -0600 
> 
>What were your previous tires?  Same size?  How worn were they?  Were 
>the new wheels an upgrade?  What size where the previous wheels? 
> 
>Far too many variables to count this as a relevant comparison.  Just 
>about any new tire is going to feel better than what it replaced and 
>when going plus-one or greater, a true tire comparison is moot. 
> 
>That's the problem with so much of the feedback on Tire Rack.  You 
>really have to try to read between the lines to get meaningful data. 
> 
>I just read Tire Rack's own evaluation of the Yoko AVS ES100.  Sounded 
>good with slight exception to wet traction.  But that was on a BMW 
>which would have fairly different suspension geometry than the 2.7tt 
>in question.  You might check it out though as there were 4 or 5 UHP 
>summer tires in the test. 
> 
>Can't say I've every heard anything about Kumhos that would make me buy. 
> 
>I've got a set of HTRZ2's but haven't put many miles on them.  If I 
>were buying today, I'd probably get the Yoko's instead. 
> 
>Ed 
> 
>On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:41:28 -0400, Greville Bowles
<zaphod at cansafe.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I recently installed some KUMHO ECSTA Supra 712 on my '95 90Q. The wet & dry 
> > handling is greatly improved over the previous tires. They are a bit noisy 
> > for my liking. I've heard that they are not particularly durable, but it's 
> > too early for me to have an opinion on that. They cost me $107 Canadian 
> > each, installed and the shop included the hub-centric rings for the new 
> > wheels as well. 
> > 
> > They look pretty good, if that counts for anything. 
> > 
> > Mr. Greville H. Bowles 
> > E-mail:   zaphod at cansafe.com 
> > '95 90Q 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com 
> > [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]On Behalf Of joel nevin 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:13 AM 
> > To: qlist 
> > Subject: High perf tire selection question 
> > 
> > Yokohama's AVS es100 
> > Sumitomo's HTR ZII 
> > Kumho's 
> > 
> > I want cheap but good. 
> > 
> > Just got a nice set of 17" BBS I am putting on my 2.7t 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > Joel