sunroof falling to bits

[SJ]

George,
Some questions for you.
1. The fabric stores sell the headliner with 1/4 inch foam backing. Correct
me if I'm wrong, but does the Audi use 1/8 inch foam?
If you use the 1/4 fabric, will you have problems with fit? Especially
around the sunroof molding,  . . . corners where the healiner meets the
pillor moldings? Etc? Do you cut away the extra foam at the locations where
the fabric goes around the edges?
2. The audi fabric is stretchy, it conforms nicely to the various
indentations in the headliner. Will store bought headliner conform as
easily?
3. Is there a source for the original headliner fabric?
4. Do you have a procedure for taking out the headliner? Any tricks
involved? Do the front seats need to come out? etc etc etc

SJ
85 Dodge PU, D-250, 318, auto
85 Audi 4k - - sold but still on the road
88 Audi 5kq
90 Audi 100q

> From: George Selby <gselby4x4 at earthlink.net>
>
> Having done many headliners myself (including my 90 Jetta last week!)
..........
> Headliner material (foam backed fabric) in generic colors is available at
> your local fabric supply store (they usually have several shades of grey,
> black, doeskin, dark and light blue.)  You probably won't get an exact
> match to your present headliner, but if you do the entire headliner, it
> generally looks good, even if it doesn't exactly match the side panels (or
> do the side panels, then no one will ever know.


>
>
> George Selby
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:43:28 -0400
> From: Kneale Brownson <knotnook at traverse.com>
> Subject: Re: sunroof falling to bits
> To: Brett Dikeman <brett at cloud9.net>, "Steve Arbaugh"
> <sneekerz at comcast.net>, "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <4.1.20040623074106.01858050 at traverse.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> 3M used to make an adhesive for vinyl top material.  I once used it to
glue
> a vinyl top onto an oak cab extension I'd made for my Jeep pickup.  It
> lasted for years.  It was a contact-type adhesive applied similarily to
> Brett's description for Super 77.
>
> At 12:34 AM 6/23/2004 -0400, Brett Dikeman wrote:
>
> >If it's a broad area, 3M makes a super tacky adhesive called Super
> >77.  You spray it on both sides, allow it to set, then press them
> >together.  I believe many photo and arts/crafts stores carry it.  You
> >might be able to find a small can...
> >
> >The dual-sided approach yields the highest strength.  Make sure you
> >follow the directions, and that the surfaces are clean of everything,
> >including the old adhesive.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 07:52:53 -0400
> From: David Kavanagh <audiguy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC} out of invites
> To: Emre Washburn <yumyjager at gmail.com>
> Cc: quattro mailing list <quattro at audifans.com>
> Message-ID: <f9ec1663040623045256a6c214 at mail.gmail.com>
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> I just got a bunch more.... anyone want one?
> (I'm only sending to the whole list again because there were so many
> requests the first time!)
>
> David
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:58:27 -0400, Emre Washburn <yumyjager at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > I have one, first to mail me, gets it.
> >
> > Emre
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:51:15 -0400, David Kavanagh <audiguy at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I've run out of GMail invites... I'm sorry if you didn't get one this
> > > time. Try me next week. By then, I should have a few more.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > --
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 05:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: William Magliocco <magliocc at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: kent's "new" car (c4)
> To: ti at amb.org, kentmclean at mindspring.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <20040623124500.33526.qmail at web20505.mail.yahoo.com>
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> I'm willing to bet Kent does NOT have servotronic.
>
> I too, have a "100" without an S or CS suffix.  Mine
> is stock, same AC unit (so far nearly trouble free)
> and my rack does not have the servotronic feature.
>
> Kent, the reason why the engine compartment is so
> roomy is that it is made to stick an I-5 in there.  In
> the US, that was for the S4/S6.
>
> see next e-mail for more on this subject.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 05:46:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: William Magliocco <magliocc at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: attention Eurolisters (c3 &c4 configurations)
> To: ti at amb.org, kentmclean at mindspring.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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> Eurolisters, did Audi ever put a gas NA 2.2 or
> 2.something I-5 in a C4 100/A6...I would guess that
> would be a very low end model?  Maybe, just maybe an
> I-5 TDi in there?  I know of a I-5 TDi for sale (with
> the ECU & wiring) but that's not worth the trouble.
>
> I know that a 2.6 v-6 existed in Euro models, and IIRC
> some low end C3s had a 1.8 I-4 under the hood, bonnet,
>  etc. (per Haynes)
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:06:02 -0400
> From: "Rokas Reipa" <rokas at umd.edu>
> Subject: RE: attention Eurolisters (c3 &c4 configurations)
> To: "'William Magliocco'" <magliocc at rocketmail.com>, <ti at amb.org>,
> <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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> There WAS a TDi I-5 in there at some point in Europe...
>
> Rokas
> 95.5 S6
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com]
On
> Behalf Of William Magliocco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:46 AM
> To: ti at amb.org; kentmclean at mindspring.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: attention Eurolisters (c3 &c4 configurations)
>
> Eurolisters, did Audi ever put a gas NA 2.2 or
> 2.something I-5 in a C4 100/A6...I would guess that
> would be a very low end model?  Maybe, just maybe an
> I-5 TDi in there?  I know of a I-5 TDi for sale (with
> the ECU & wiring) but that's not worth the trouble.
>
> I know that a 2.6 v-6 existed in Euro models, and IIRC
> some low end C3s had a 1.8 I-4 under the hood, bonnet,
>  etc. (per Haynes)
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:17:33 GMT
> From: "l.leung at juno.com" <l.leung at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: quattro Digest, Vol 8, Issue 74
> To: quattro at audifans.com
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>
> Kent,
>
> Welcome to the C4 family. That you have
> an "S" vs. a "CS" explains the lack of
> ACC, but it seems that the MFI dissappeared
> in '93 (my friends '93 100CSQA doesn't have
> one, and it has EVERYTHING else, my S6
> doesn't have one either, and it's hard
> not to instinctively toggle the right
> stalk).
>
> As for the steering, it's most probably
> Servotronic (the speed effecting boost
> is a clue). Easiest method of defeating
> it is to unplug the connector AT THE
> RACK. Much easier than getting to the
> relay under the dash. If you recall trying
> to get to any of the under the dash
> relays on the 200, you don't want to
> go there on the C4.
>
> Finally, I ended up putting the owner's
> manual in the passenger's door pocket.
> NOW the glove box has some room. And it
> gives some reading mat'l to the passenger.;-)
>
> LL - NY
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:23:32 -0400
> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: car shopping
> To: v6-12v at audifans.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <40D905C4.8010601 at mindspring.com>
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> Gentlepeople,
>
> The deed is done.  Yesterday, I traded in my Miata (on the first
> day of summer!) on a 1994 Audi 100 Avant FWD automatic (call me
> stupid). The car needed some work before I could use it (ECU and
> its wiring harness, serpentine belt, battery).  The car started
> and ran, but was a complete unknown as it hadn't been driven in
> a few months. Today, I put 346 miles on it.  Here are my thoughts
> on the C4 bodied 100 and my 1989 Type 44 200 TQ...
>
> - The turbo definitely has better pull, and quattro can't be beat.
>
> - The V6/auto combo isn't that bad if you aren't expecting neck
>    snapping acceleration.
>
> - I like the room in the engine bay on the C4. Swapping out the
>    serpentine belt (Thanks, Scott) is a 5 minute job and a 1 on a
>    1=easy, 10=hard scale. The Type 44 alternator belt I'd rate a 10.
>
> - I miss the MFD (multi-function display), especially "miles to
>    empty".
>
> - I miss the voltmeter.
>
> - The C4 steering is Buick-easy at low speed, but feels fine on
>    the highway.  Servotronic?
>
> - The cars (both Type 44 and C4) are superb highway cars. They
>    have long legs and can eat up the miles. They are also fairly
>    quiet.
>
> - My 200 had the automatic climate control (ACC). My C4 has the
>    manual 3-big-knobs for fan, temp, and direction (foot, vent,
>    defrost).  I like the set-it-and-forget nature of the ACC, but
>    I also like the simplicity and in-control feeling of the manual
>    controls.
>
> - I miss the diagnostics of the auto climate control.
>
> - I prefer the C4's analog clock over the 200's digital clock.
>
> - The C4 has a *tiny* glove box. If you have the owner's manual
>    in it, you can't fit a glove, too.
>
> - 346 miles on half a tank of gas. I don't expect another 346
>    miles from the second half. (My 200's fuel gauge would slowly
>    fall to 1/2 tank or so, then plummet to empty.)
>
> - I hope the C4's Bose stereo outlasts the 200's.
>
> In all, I'm impressed with my new wagon. It's not a turbo, it's
> not a quattro, but it is an Audi.  And it meets my needs to haul
> gear.
>
> Cheers,
> Kent
> '89 200 TQ, "Bad Puppy"
> '94 100 S [1] (name to be determined)
>
> [1] In the 50's, Austin-Healey built a race car based on it's
> 100.  It was an "S", after Sebring.  A 100 S.  55 made, worth
> big bucks today.  No relation to my Audi 100 S.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:51:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Kurt Deschler <desch at alum.wpi.edu>
> Subject: Re: unroof falling to bits
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0406230945370.7223 at cs.WPI.EDU>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-unknown"
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>
> My 5k has the same problem where the flap has disconnected from the
> sunroof. The fabric seems to be holding fine to the flap. I think that
> liquid nails may be a good choice to glue the flap back on since it bonds
> hard and fast and can fill any gaps. I used this before on my GTI sunroof
> where nothing else would hold.
>
>   Kurt
>   87 5kcstq
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:24:08 -0700
> > From: "Steve Arbaugh" <sneekerz at comcast.net>
> > Subject: sunroof falling to bits
> > To: "Quattro List" <quattro at www.audifans.com>
> > Message-ID: <NEBBLLJJPCNAOMIMHCKOGELODKAA.sneekerz at comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Summertime! The time the sunroof gets opened up, or at least tilted
open,
> > and the parts fall on your head. Which leads to these two questions. On
the
> > 5k, the headliner trim piece that goes up with the sunroof when it's
tilted
> > open, it's lost its stick-um to the metal flap. I've tried the Wurth
Hi-Temp
> > spray adhesive, doesn't hold. Any suggestions on what I can use on this?
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:49:48 -0400
> From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
> Subject: Engine/trans removal/installation - '83 coupe
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Cc: urq at audifans.com
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> Ode to the engine swap - Like a mortally wounded animal, the hulk lie on
its side - never to rise intact again.  Its fate was sealed in days gone by,
as the successor emerges to take its place.
>
> BTW - I dropped it out the bottom as many recommended.
>
> Ben
>
>
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