quattro Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44

Mark and Aviva Woodland maviva at ptdprolog.net
Fri Mar 12 08:43:14 EST 2004


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>    1. Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro? (Kent McLean)
>    2. Re: RE : any parts degreaser solvent recommendations NOT
>       gasoline (Huw Powell)
>    3. Shipping a transmission (Richard Hoffman)
>    4. Re: Shipping a transmission (Dave K.)
>    5. E-mail account security warning. (noreply at audifans.com)
>    6. Re: Shipping a transmission (Huw Powell)
>    7. Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro? (Tessie McMillan)
>    8. Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro? (Ti Kan)
>    9. Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro? (Kent McLean)
>   10. Re: RE : any parts degreaser solvent recommendations NOT
>       gasoline (Kent McLean)
>   11. Re: ADMIN: "FA", "ETKA", "ELSA" was Re: Porsche FA now
>       available (Huw Powell)
>   12. Re: "ELSA" (Huw Powell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:19:39 -0500
> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro?
> To: Tessie McMillan <tessmc at drizzle.com>, quattro at audifans.com
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> Tessie McMillan wrote:
> > Should I buy 4 new tires and save the 2 old ones for spares, or can I
buy
> > 2 new tires, mount them on the fronts, and de-mount/swap the old left
> > front to be the right rear?
>
> I'd put 2 new ones on the front, but I'm cheap.
> I'm guessing others that say you should *never*
> mix tires, and still others will say it depends
> on which "quattro" you have (T*rsen, Haldex).
>
> You've got a 4KQ, correct?
>
> Kent
> '89 200 TQ, "Bad Puppy"
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:46:34 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: RE : any parts degreaser solvent recommendations NOT
> gasoline
> To: quattro at audifans.com
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>
> > Seen that before. An older guy I know was dismantling a 1980 Supra's
engine
> > and devised an "automatic parts cleaner": an old dishwasher fed with
> > gasoline.
>
> I wonder how well (read: lazy) that would work with a degreasing agent a
> little less, um, volatile?
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:19:59 -0800
> From: "Richard Hoffman" <billzcat1 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Shipping a transmission
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
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> Hello All!
> I have to ship a transmission (yes its an Audi trans) to New Hampshire
(from
> WA state).  I have a pallet/crate ready to go.  It weighs about 200 lbs.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations on inexpensive air or truck freight
> companies?  Most of the places I have called need me to open a business
> account...and I'd rather not since this is a one-time deal.
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>
> Richard
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:23:59 -0500
> From: "Dave K." <desmo888 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Shipping a transmission
> To: "Richard Hoffman" <billzcat1 at hotmail.com>, <quattro at audifans.com>
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> Richard,
> I just shipped a trans to FL and the buyer arranged it .  He said he used
> www.shippingquote.com or something like that.  You don;t know the carrier
> until you accept the bid.
> He got it shipped for about $100 less than the same shipper quoted direct.
>
> Dave K.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Hoffman" <billzcat1 at hotmail.com>
> To: <quattro at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:19 PM
> Subject: Shipping a transmission
>
>
> > Hello All!
> > I have to ship a transmission (yes its an Audi trans) to New Hampshire
> (from
> > WA state).  I have a pallet/crate ready to go.  It weighs about 200 lbs.
> >
> > Does anyone have any recommendations on inexpensive air or truck freight
> > companies?  Most of the places I have called need me to open a business
> > account...and I'd rather not since this is a one-time deal.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!!
> >
> > Richard
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:11:18 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: Shipping a transmission
> To: "Dave K." <desmo888 at comcast.net>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
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>
> > I just shipped a trans to FL and the buyer arranged it .  He said he
used
> > www.shippingquote.com or something like that.
>
> I think it might have been www.freightquote.com - at least that guess is
> an operation that sounds like what you describe.
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
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> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:49:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tessie McMillan <tessmc at drizzle.com>
> Subject: Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro?
> To: Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403111839270.2355-100000 at drizzle.com>
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> Sorry I forgot to mention that it is an '88 80 Quattro. I assumed I had
> a Torsen differential. (What's Haldex?)
>
> Another person on the digest did mention the diffs handle slight
> differences in radius differently (sorry for the alliteration), depending
> on whether the diffs lock the front and rear axles or not.
>
> Do you have a different (sorry!) opinion now?
>
> Tess
>
> Kent McLean wrote:
>
> > I'd put 2 new ones on the front, but I'm cheap.
> > I'm guessing others that say you should *never*
> > mix tires, and still others will say it depends
> > on which "quattro" you have (T*rsen, Haldex).
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:00:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ti Kan <ti at amb.org>
> Subject: Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro?
> To: tessmc at drizzle.com (Tessie McMillan)
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <200403120300.DAA25692 at amb.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Tessie McMillan writes:
> > (What's Haldex?)
>
> The system that's used on the Audi TT quattro, A3/S3 quattro and
> Golf/R32/Jetta/Bora 4Motion.  It is mostly fwd under normal
> circumstances in the VW and Audi applications, but has an
> electronically controlled clutch that directs power rearwards
> when slippage is detected.
>
> -Ti
> 2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
> 2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
> 1984 5000S turbo
> 1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
> --
>  R 1 3 5  Ti Kan
>  |_|_|_|  http://www.amb.org/ti
>    | | |  Vorsprung durch Technik
>    2 4 6
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:10:07 -0500
> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: mixing and matching tires on a Quattro?
> To: Tessie McMillan <tessmc at drizzle.com>
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <40512A0F.4020805 at mindspring.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Tessie McMillan wrote:
> > Sorry I forgot to mention that it is an '88 80 Quattro. I assumed I had
> > a Torsen differential. (What's Haldex?)
> >
> > Another person on the digest did mention the diffs handle slight
> > differences in radius differently (sorry for the alliteration),
depending
> > on whether the diffs lock the front and rear axles or not.
> >
> > Do you have a different (sorry!) opinion now?
>
> Nope. I gave you the entire thimbleful of my
> knowledge.
>
> Haldex is used on some of the newer Audis:
> http://www.audi-me.com/glossary/h/haldex.html
>
> Kent
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:10:27 -0500
> From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: RE : any parts degreaser solvent recommendations NOT
> gasoline
> To: audi at humanspeakers.com
> Cc: quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <40512A23.8090907 at mindspring.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Huw Powell wrote:
> >> Seen that before. An older guy I know was dismantling a 1980 Supra's
> >> engine
> >> and devised an "automatic parts cleaner": an old dishwasher fed with
> >> gasoline.
> > I wonder how well (read: lazy) that would work with a degreasing agent a
> > little less, um, volatile?
>
> I would think the sudsing action might overwhelm
> the machine. But hey, throw some SimpleGreen in
> there and let us know.
>
> Kent
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:31:47 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: ADMIN: "FA", "ETKA", "ELSA" was Re: Porsche FA now
> available
> To: pribis at lycos.com
> Cc: brett at cloud9.net, quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <40512F23.4020601 at humanspeakers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>
> > Point taken. However I think a polite statement would have served.
>
> Sure, politeness is always good.  But sometimes what has to be said, has
> to be said, and there's no time for flowers & poetry.
>
> > Also, admitting that there exists a "wink-nod-..." system of
> > determining who gets a copy does little to improve one's legal
> > standing.
>
> Well, I don't think he was implying there is such a system supported in
> any way by the site or the mailing list.  Simply that, apparently, there
> are copies floating around out there, and the best way to try to find
> one is to send someone who refers to it obliquely a private email.
>
> Or, ironically, go to ebay where there seems to be a steady supply of
> this bootlegged software on sale.  Audifans is small and would probably
> like to avoid messy legal shenanigans.  Ebay doesn't seem to care.
>
> > And I find the idea that one must "pay his dues" before he is worthy
> >  of getting a copy of FA to be elitist.
>
> That is not the case at all.
>
> > For that reason I share FA with anyone who contacts me off line. No
> > charge. No secret handshake.
>
> I think that is the common mode of dispersion, yes.
>
> Remember, Brett's note was in reaction to someone offering for sale
> bootlegged software on a public mailing list.
>
> & see next note...
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:33:57 -0500
> From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
> Subject: Re: "ELSA"
> To: pribis at lycos.com
> Cc: brett at cloud9.net, quattro at audifans.com
> Message-ID: <40512FA5.80103 at humanspeakers.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Paul Pribis wrote:
>
>  > Finally; I would have liked to know more about ELSA. It looked
>  > interesting...
>
> I changed the subject line to mellow the mood... I also am curious.
> Much as we can freely discuss the old fiche and current computer-based
> system the dealers use to look up part numbers, we can also surely
> wonder at what this new (to me) acronym means.
>
> Whazzizzit?
>
> --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi
>
> http://www.humanthoughts.org/
>
>
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