Transmission Modifications (016)

[Cody]

Oh did I forget to mention that a 5cyl has been done in Westy's, and as a matter of fact there is even a kit? On my long list of things to do (win the lotto, build a Carrera GT from scratch, make my 5ktq faster then "the" 80tq ;-) ) somewhere towards the top is to build a 5cyl turbo bus. I figure it would be fun, but see the Subaru bus that I have is cheaper, easier, and 300hp stock naturally aspirated, so it makes for a better camper.

-Cody Forbes
'86 5ktq
'87 5ktq EFI/K27
'88 80 4cyl
'88 90 4cyl


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Alan Pritchard <apritchard at seaeye.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:52:19 +0100

>Funny.... I often thought how cool it would be to mount a 5cyl turbo in the
>usual orientation, so that the front axles mated with the rear in a coupe
>Quattro or such like. What a superb mid engined 2 seater that would be...
>and off course as a development incorporate the rear diff into the front of
>the car and somehow connect it all up.  That would be fun but really tricky,
>alternatively turn the whole engine and drivetrain thru' 180 degrees, and
>make the engine run backwards (not that silly an idea). Never would
>entertain attempting it though!!!
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Alan Pritchard,
>Mechanical design engineer,
>Network administrator.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
>From: 	Cody [mailto:Cody at mail.craincorporated.com] 
>Sent:	31 March 2004 14:39
>To:	quattro at audifans.com; Dan Cordon; Denis Julien
>Subject:	Re: Transmission Modifications (016)
>
>Note that a Vanagon/Westfalia Syncro driveline is not only rare and decently
>expensive, but also rather fragile. I am involved in the VW Bus/Camper crowd
>too (I have 3 Westfalia's, one VW powered, one Porsche 6cyl powered, and one
>6cyl Subaru powered), and have seen tons of driveline failures with
>aggressive offroading even when still powered by the stock 4cyl VW motor. A
>turbo rotary would fairly readily destroy a Syncro tranny and/or diff in
>short order (only matters on which breaks first or if they go together).
>
>If it's going to be tube frame why not front engine with Quattro driveline?
>I think if you go rear engine your only choice is going to be expensive
>stuff, maybe Porsche stuff from a Carrera 4.
>
>-Cody Forbes
>'86 5ktq
>'87 5ktq EFI/K27
>'88 80 4cyl
>'88 90 4cyl
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Denis Julien" <sparkplugvw at hotmail.com>
>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:15:12 -0500
>
>>Mmmmm i trying to do what i asked many time here in this list ;-)
>>
>>There is what i got:
>>
>>For the rear diff you have to put it up side down, but need to had more oil
>>in the diff.
>>
>>For the tranny , the main shaft does all the job in the tranny, it cant be
>>reverse without reverse the ring and pinion.
>>The pinion and ring cant be reverse, the case is not fabricated as a VW air
>>cooled wich you can reverse it to make 911 config or 914 config.
>>
>>You have to machine the case to reverse the pinion and ring. I tought about
>>machine the case but you ll need two case , cut the side you want to swap
>on
>>both..... and you ll have to machine the alignment distance, shims,,,,, it
>>ll cost ouffffffffffff much more than a VW buss tranny 4x4.
>>
>>Best way is to get a 4x4 bus tranny.
>>
>>Denis J
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Dan Cordon" <cord4530 at uidaho.edu>
>>To: "Quattro List" <quattro at audifans.com>
>>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:17 AM
>>Subject: Transmission Modifications (016)
>>
>>
>>> I have a spare torsen tranny at home now from a 91 200 tq. I had planned
>>> to swap it in my 5k, but have since decided not to. However, I was
>>> thinking of building a strange creation with it. I'm sure it's
>>> blasphemy, but I was considering attaching a turbo 13B rotary to it.
>>> Then, hanging the whole thing backwards ala the aircooled VW's.
>>>
>>> My question is this: Is it possible to swap sides of the ring gear to
>>> get the output to spin the opposite direction? I know you can do this
>>> with porsche and VW cases, but I don't know if you can do it with the
>>> 016 audi tranny. If so, how about the rear diff? Can it be swapped to
>>> the other side too?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking an awd play car that will likely be a tube chassis creation
>>> like the Formula SAE cars many universities build each year.....only
>>> slightly larger and maybe seating for two.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Dan Cordon
>>> Mechanical Engineer
>>> University of Idaho - Engine Research Facility
>>>
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